**COMPLETED** Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837

[Caryn_1]

That's weird muss... ...wonder why that happens?

And no majm, I'm not referring to Kew in London. All the holdings as far as I'm aware are in Canberra.

Go to http://www.nla.gov.au/apps/cdview?pi=nla.pic-an4323619 to start viewing. I'm not breaking any copyright rules here, as the site clearly states that the images can be saved or printed for study or research purposes.

To work through the images, just click on the yellow arrows. There are a lot of images (however, again, I doubt this fellow belongs to my Glover family - but a nice little aside - thanks Neil).

Cheers
Caryn

[majm]

Ummm 

Muss most probably that would be reflecting how many times I have contributed thoughts, suggestions and comments to this thread

Oh Caryn ... that is a tad disappointing ... you mentioned National Archivesbut the link is to the Nationall Library of Australia...  Two very different organisations

Oh ... And I was going to get the younger set searching through the A2A website ...

Cheers  JM   PS Have you checked the websites for the National Archives of Australia? OR Archway New Zealand?

[muss]

Hi

Caryn 's  post ok  Majm post Junk   

oh well makes life interesting, I will just have to check both, and drag Majm to my
Inbox before I can read it


Muss

[Caryn_1]

Hi All and Happy New Year

Well, the printouts have finally arrived from NZ.

I ordered the printout for the death of one - George Tandy who died 9 August 1873 in the hope that it may have been Thomas George Tandy, however, it has turned out not to be. George Tandy died in Wellington at the age of 44, meaning he was born in 1829.

I also ordered the printout of the marriage certificate of Thomas Tandy and Bertha Gorham. And it most certainly does contain more information than the certificate does. What is clear, is that Bertha's name is clearly showing as Gorham on the printout and not as Perham (as was transcribed on the certificate). It is also showing that Thomas Tandy was a widower at the time he married Bertha in 1850.

They were married according to the rites of the Wesleyan Church, and their witnesses were George Glover, Grace Glover and another fellow named Charles - and I can't quite make out the surname, but it looks like Windows. I'll have to scan it and see if anyone can actually make out the name.

I am now so totally convinced that this is my Bertha's first marriage - I can't believe this mystery is finally solved. Many many thanks to muss for that scathingly brilliant piece of detective work in fidning that marriage, and many thanks to you all for your help.

The remaining mystery - what the heck happened to their son Thomas George? I know you all won't sleep at night till this is solved....

Cheers
Caryn

[muss]

Hi

do you have this 

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=OW18980331.2.188&srpos=14&e=-------10-OW-11----0thomas+glover--

Muss

[Caryn_1]

Hi Muss

Yes thank you - I have this article.

Cheers
Caryn

[majm]

Hi Caryn,

Two Posts in one 

May I ask for your response please 

.....Oh Caryn ... that is a tad disappointing ... you mentioned National Archives but the link is to the National Library of Australia...  Two very different organisations ......  PS Have you checked the websites for the National Archives of Australia? OR Archway New Zealand? 

Secondly,   

Hi Muss

Yes thank you - I have this article.

Cheers
Caryn

The cutting that Muss posted gives you the information that the Wesleyan register for Baptisms, marriages and deaths at Waitkouaiti, was held by the Rev T N Griffin in  31 March 1898.   Thus it seems to me that it would be worthwhile for you to make NZ enquiries as to whether that very register is extant, and more importantly if it had at some stage been fully transcribed. 

Perhaps it will contain details for Thomas George TANDY's baptism, or his older half-sister's baptism, or for Bertha Gorham's step siblings, or Bertha's marriage to Thomas Tandy.   

I note that the newspaper cutting is from Otago Witness , Issue 2300, 31 March 1898, Page 26
and indicates that the second entry in the register was for the baptism of Elizabeth Grace, daughter of George and Harriet Glover, labourer, and was conducted by the Missionary, James Watkin, on October 11, 1840. 

Caryn, have you considered seeking assistance from the fantastic NZ helpers at RChat .....   Perhaps they may be able to find a connection between the George Tandy who was aged 44 and Bertha's first husband, or perhaps they may be able to find Bertha Gorham's son, Thomas George Tandy.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,299.0.html

Cheers,  JM

[Lucy2]

Hi Caryn

Not sure if this will be of any help to you ?

Waikouaiti Library holdings :

REV. James WATKINS Waikouaiti Register of Baptisms, Burials and Marriages / transcription as per James WATKINS Register, by C.D. DEAN

http://www.dunedinlibraries.govt.nz/your-library/locations-and-hours/waikouaiti-library

[Above reference is found on Page 6 of the "Local Resources" link. ]

Waikouaiti as you will see is a small branch library and doesn't appear to have a direct email link.   There is though an "ask a librarian" service so you could make enquiries via that facility.

Good luck.   

   ~   Lu
        (in NZ)

[Caryn_1]

All good leads guys, thank you.

The search continues.............

Cheers
Caryn