**COMPLETED** Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837

[Caryn_1]

Thanks all

Looks like I'm going to have to re-order the 'printouts' from NZ as Neil suggested. Seems somewhat at odds that a printout would contain more info - but certainly need to glean more information than what the certificates contain.

As has been suggested, the search for what happened to young Thomas George Tandy is going to be an extremely difficult one.

Cheers
Caryn

[majm]

Hi Caryn,

What information did Bertha give about herself, her origins, her parents, her father's occupation, her former surnames (King, Tandy, Glover, nee Gorham) to the clergyman who married her (to her Mr Coxhead) in 1875, who were the witnesses, perhaps .... her son, Thomas George Tandy may have been one? NSW BDM ref #  3165 of 1875.

Official transcription copy would be the cheaper and quicker option (pdf file to your email is one option), and it will have the same information as the 'real deal' NSW BDM certificate. 

Transcription Agents
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html

Also further information about some issues re many of the NSW BDM mcs for that era

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,546609.0.html

Cheers,  JM

[muss]

Hi Caryn

do you have this ?

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18920995?searchTerm=coxhead morpeth&searchLimits=


Muss

[Caryn_1]

Hi All

Yes thanks muss, I do have that article about Charles Coxhead. Tough times back then with a broken leg and not being able to work, however, terrific to see that people were willing to pull together to help back then.

The marriage certificate for Bertha and Charles Coxhead is something I'm now going to order to see if Thomas George Tandy shows up. I'm hoping his name does appear on this one - at least acknowledged as her child (because he wasn't acknowledged on her death certificate) - or as a witness (if as a witness, then we'll know that he came to Australia).

Cheers
Caryn

[Neil Todd]

Well I never!

I think that is the right expression. This works good too 

Umm may have nothing to do with anything but what a shock to find.

http://www.multiculturalaustralia.edu.au/library/media/Image/id/772.quotThursday-Island-Queenslandquot-1879

Looks nice too. Tanks to Mr Gargle

Neil

[majm]

Mr Gargle .... Mr Geggle ... there are lots of info online for Bertha and her Mum's family as Merlin mentioned much earlier on this thread ...  Most likely Caryn has contacted those current descendants to swap the NZ info that Muss found as it may well help those others to share any private family secrets with Caryn as she has the BDM certs linking her to Bertha and to George Gorham and thus back to Amelia Gorham. 

[Caryn_1]

Hi Neil

The National Archives holds over 45 works by one Thomas George Glover (and copies can be purchased) - painted from all over New Zealand, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Tasmania and Indonesia. Seems Tom Glover was a bit of a wanderer in his time, but a wonderful artist. His sketches and watercolours give a brilliant insight into the areas in the late 1870's - they're absolutely fantastic.

Could it possibly be Thomas George Tandy who later became known as Thomas George Glover? I have absolutely no idea, but what a mind boggling concept? I can't find any information on this artist as to when he was born or died (at least not in NSW and he doesn't appear to have died in NZ either). I can find plenty of information about his art, and there are plenty of his sketches and watercolours to view online.

As you say - it might have nothing to do with anything - but entirely possible if he was born in NZ about 1850 - and the paintings were all done around 1878-1879??? Who knows? Clutching at straws is all I got at this point...

Worth eliminating him if we can find out a bit more about him.

Cheers
Caryn

[majm]

Wow ... So TNA at Kew has holdings too. 

Well found Caryn

 ... Any links to the Kew ones please  ... I hope the ones at TNA Kew are additional to Australia's National Library ones.

Cheers JM

 

Hi Neil

The National Archives holds over 45 works by one Thomas George Glover (and copies can be purchased) - painted from all over New Zealand, Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Tasmania and Indonesia. Seems Tom Glover was a bit of a wanderer in his time, but a wonderful artist. His sketches and watercolours give a brilliant insight into the areas in the late 1870's - they're absolutely fantastic.

Could it possibly be Thomas George Tandy who later became known as Thomas George Glover? I have absolutely no idea, but what a mind boggling concept? I can't find any information on this artist as to when he was born or died (at least not in NSW and he doesn't appear to have died in NZ either). I can find plenty of information about his art, and there are plenty of his sketches and watercolours to view online.

As you say - it might have nothing to do with anything - but entirely possible if he was born in NZ about 1850 - and the paintings were all done around 1878-1879??? Who knows? Clutching at straws is all I got at this point...

Worth eliminating him if we can find out a bit more about him.

Cheers
Caryn

[muss]

Hi

My computer  seems to dislike MAJM  each time  MAJM post a reply to this topic it goes into my junk Emails  and it is only MAJM and only this topic


Muss