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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Report of death of George Glover - Maitland Mercury 29 June 1869

also mentioned is his daughter MRS KING


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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 07 December 11 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have the answer to the children of Harriet and George

Empire 8 june 1855 -  Court Case - Harriet Grace Glover wife of George Glover coachman in the employ of Mr Hosking at Vaucluse - has 6 children- one a daughter named Emily

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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #101 on: Thursday 08 December 11 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Wow Muss finds more siblings for Bertha!

From reply #5 Bertha born 1833, George 1836, then migration from UK to NSW ten  Henry 1838, Theodore 1839

Neil finds that Amelia dies 1839 and so Geo remarries.   After many posts pages of them all relevant then  Muss sorts it  finds Bertha married in  NZ has a babe  becomes a widow in NZ ...  And Muss then finds  there's 6 more siblings for Bertha  including Emily and Theo

What a lot of sorting out and further reseaech for Caryn  to do ...  But at least the elusive Mr Tandy has been found..  and a wee babe for Bertha too ....  Now what happened to that babe ...  I have not yet found him in NSW BDM searches ...  Wondering what his surname became

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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #102 on: Thursday 08 December 11 01:02 GMT (UK) »
Trove searching gives the chap at Walgett 1883 as a drover aged 58 and married so not born 1839 so more likely he was born to another couple named George and Amelia Glover around 1825....

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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #103 on: Thursday 08 December 11 01:09 GMT (UK) »
May I please ask Caryn to carefully check where she sourced that George and Amelia had a son born in NSW in 1839 named Theodore?
It is somewhat confusing me ...

Also I hope Bertha's dc arrives soon

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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #104 on: Thursday 08 December 11 01:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi CARYN

do you have GEORGE GLOVERS DC ?


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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #105 on: Thursday 08 December 11 02:16 GMT (UK) »
Harriet Grace Champion was aged 25 when she married George Glover, aged 24 on 6 Nov 1839.  (family search Historic Records I07586-9 ) and as mentioned earlier, this seems to be a Presbyterian service.

Again as mentioned earlier, it is likely that she died in 1909, if so, then it is likely her death was registered at Petersham, NSW with parents GIVEN names recorded at NSW BDM as George and Susan.   #10755.   

As Bertha was still living at that time, I wonder if Bertha was the informant, or at least helped the informant with the names of Harriet's children, as it seems to me that with Bertha being the eldest then it would be likely she knew which of her siblings belonged to each of the two likely wives of George Glover. 

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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #106 on: Thursday 08 December 11 02:32 GMT (UK) »
Re Emily Glover ... further info to Muss' reply
Quote from: muss on Wednesday 07 December 11 20:58 GMT (UK)
Hi

I have the answer to the children of Harriet and George

Empire 8 june 1855 -  Court Case - Harriet Grace Glover wife of George Glover coachman in the employ of Mr Hosking at Vaucluse - has 6 children- one a daughter named Emily

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This cutting shows Emily was aged about 11, and had an older sister, aged about 13, ... and is confronting in the details reported...  http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/701749 Maitland Mercury 26 May 1855.

Adding, it shows the strength of Harriet's character, her devotion to her children, her understanding of the possibility of the spread of scarlet fever, her standing in that community and her determination to provide for and to protect her family.  Further, the later reports show her understanding of the rights of women to be heard as credible witnesses in the developing criminal courts in NSW, as she obtained prompt justice for Emily. 

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Re: Bertha GLOVER born 1833 Wittersham, Kent arrived Sydney 1837
« Reply #107 on: Thursday 08 December 11 03:46 GMT (UK) »
Photo of MI & headstone of George Glover & some family buried here:

http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=4405030
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