Stephen KING, widowed, marriage place of Ingleburn, on 30 May 1853 to Bertha Tandy, widowed.
AND
Stephen KING, widowed, marriage place of St Mary, Denham Court on 13 May 1853, to Bertha TANDY, widowed
Source : Historical Records, M00381-9 and M31026-3 at this link : https://familysearch.org/
Hi
I tend to take some of what I find on familysearch with a grain of salt sometimes as a lot of the records have been submitted by people who have uploaded/submitted their family trees to the LDS. Quite of lot of which have unsubstantiated records. That's not to say there are not two parish records for Stephen and Bertha's marriage of course. That is, of course, another avenue to investigate i.e. the parish records to see what is recorded there.
Cheers
Caryn
Caryn, the
Historic Records at the new familysearch website quite clearly are
NOT submitted records. Submitted details at their new website are in a completely separate section, and are clearly identifiable as such.
The Historic Records are the equivalent of the old IGI extracted records, ie groups of volunteer transcribers without the influence of inadvertently mis-reading a parish record for the advancement of their own research have transcribed them, then a separate group have examined those transcriptions and independently 'audited' them. I think those Historic Records are worth placing some reliance upon them as to their validity. Obviously there is at least ONE record at Denham Court giving the marriage date of 13 May (and not as the 30th) perhaps it is a Licence entry. However, the ECR at NSWBDM that you have, is giving you 30th May at Denham Court.
Earlier in this thread I provided the link to the St Mary, Denham Court's C of E contact details. Perhaps when you have the opportunity you may send them an email.
By way of explanation, and thus perhaps as an aside (hence I apologise for straying slightly off topic) I have not ever had, nor do I have any connection to the LDS. I have not ever transcribed for them, but I have transcribed many NSW rural parish registers, always as a volunteer. Many of those parish registers entries are not included in the current NSW BDM online indexes. I no longer regularly volunteer to transcribe (I do not travel as much as in earlier decades), but I remain keenly interested in the efforts of all disinterested volunteer transcribers. (Disinterest in the 'old fashioned' sense of being impartial, but well informed/knowledgeable about a particular topic as opposed to being uninterested in the topic or a person whose interest in a topic provides a benefit to themselves ... whether that benefit be pecuniary or otherwise)
Re the Mr Tandy in that SMH cutting that Neil has posted.... Have you tried the earlier versions of the digitised newspapers ... the Australian Periodicals .... the NLA's ferguson papers, part of the first of the Australian Cooperative Digitisation Projects from years and years ago, and widely publicised at the time in many libraries and family history groups and newsletters throughout Australia at that time. Here is the current link
http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/ Re Madeline KING, you would be able to confirm or eliminate her fairly quickly by obtaining a transcript copy of the bc. These are a cheaper and quicker option than the real deal certificates issued by NSW BDM. (I have not ever worked for either the NSW BDM, or any of the Official Transcription Agents either.)
Cheers, JM. (Currently looking further through my reference books on Glebe where quite a number of my forebears were residing in the 1860s and for several later generations. The ones there in the 1860s were already third generation NS Walers.)
