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[lizdb]

Is the Uncle Henry Godfrey (Godfrey being the surname) or Henry Godfrey Wilson?

DO you know if he is an uncle on her father's side or her mothers?
What other clues about him does his will give, other than he has a niece Harriet Wilson? What age was he when he died, and when was that.?
If he was an uncle on her father's side, then it might be worth researching him to see if it leads you to a John.

And dont forget, even if she was orphaned, she would have had parents at one stage!

[GreenKiwi]

Hi, I have not posted for a while to try and narrow down the field.
This is more info from a Cousin.

Harriette Wilson born 1839? Middlesex. Parents Harriette Godfrey( born 1813? Brighton) and William Wilson ( conflict with death cert which had John as father). Living in Bethnal Green and he was a landscape gardner I am not sure if this came off a census or a marraige entry??
Harriette moved to Australai before 1 may 1862 when She married in Tasmania(no parents named on the marrage cert). She is the niece of Henery Godfrey who died in Jan 1862 Tasmaina. This is for certain:)

[JeannieR]

Hello There.....

I think this is your family on the 1851 census.....

William Wilson / head / age 32 / Pianoforte Maker / born Hull, Yorkshire
Harriett Wilson / wife / age 38 / born Brighton, Sussex
HARRIETT Wilson / daughter / age 14 / born Stepney, Middlesex

Address was
9 Wellington Street, Bethnal Green

Piece 1540 / Folio 567 / page 32

Best Wishes

JeannieR

[Ladyhawk]

William Wilson / head / age 32 / Pianoforte Maker / born Hull, Yorkshire
Harriett Wilson / wife / age 38 / born Brighton, Sussex
HARRIETT Wilson / daughter / age 14 / born Stepney, Middlesex
Address was
9 Wellington Street, Bethnal Green

Piece 1540 / Folio 567 / page 32

This looks like the family  on 1841c HO107; Piece 665; Book: 8; Civil Parish: St Mary Islington West Middlesex; ED: 24; Folio: 31; Page: 8
Putney St., Islington
Wm Wilson 29 occ Piano m
Harrt 29
Harriot 4
Only Harriot born in this county

Harriette Wilson born 1839? Middlesex.
Parents Harriette Godfrey( born 1813? Brighton) and
William Wilson ( conflict with death cert which had John as father).
Living in Bethnal Green he was a landscape gardner I am not sure if this came off a census or a marraige entry??

There's another Harriet with parents William & Harriet on the 1841c but occupation again is different & Harriet Jnr. born Surrey 

 HO107; Piece 1083; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Christchurch; County: Surrey; ED: 13; Folio: 15; Page: 22
20 Broad Wall Christchurch Southwark
Willm Wilson 25 ‘N’ occ.  Victualler
Harriet 25 ‘N’
Harriet 6 months ‘Y’
Wm & Harriet noted as not born in this county

Can't place them on the 1851 census but this looks as if it's Harriet with her grandmother in 1861

1861 RG9; Piece: 205; Folio: 87; Page: 12
65 Lowes White Street
Hetty Isabella Wilson Widow  72 St Martin in the Field Middx occ License Victualler
Harriet Wilson granddaughter 20 (1841) Christchurch Surrey Assistant
William g/son 18 Christchurch Cooper
Emma g/dau 16 Shoreditch Middx Assistant
Ann Wilson servant widow  72 Cook plus 4 other servants

Harriette moved to Australai before 1 may 1862 when She married in Tasmania
(no parents named on the marrage cert).
She is the niece of Henry Godfrey who died in Jan 1862 Tasmaina. This is for certain:)

John William Jeffries 1838
Harriet Wilson 1839
Marriage Date: 01 May 1862  Westbury, Tasmania, Australia
Both single (familysearch)

Uncle Henery Godfrey who had a holiday in Tasmania as a convict but returned to England after his wife Mary Clarke died

This looks to be Uncle Henry's marriage (family search)

Henry Godferry 1814
Mary Clarke 1819
Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1843 Tasmania,Australia

Henry Godfrey
Vessel: Georgiana
Convicted Date: 17 May 1832 Voyage Date: 28 Sep 1832
Colony: Van Dieman's Land Place of Conviction: Middlesex, England

Have you seen this

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18320517-17-defend364&div=t18320517-17#highlight

he went back to OZ with his family in 1858 and we think Harriet followed them out at some stage?

Have you a date as to when Henry Godfrey and his family travelled back to Tasmania
Have you found Harriet Wilson on any passenger lists?
Where there any witnesses to Harriet's marriage?

[GreenKiwi]

Thanks for all the help, But I think we will have to eliminant some of those. The rest is great.

Have you a date as to when Henry Godfrey and his family travelled back to Tasmania


I don't know when she moved to Tasmania. But I think Henry Godfrey could be meet her in London in middle of 1850s. After Henry's wife's death, Henry and his children moved back to Tasmania in 1858. So Harriet might be moved after 1858 to Tasmania to join them.
to work for Henry at the Horse and Jockey Launceston, other note is when she was 14? 1852?


Have you found Harriet Wilson on any passenger lists?

No I am still trying to find where to look for this.

Where there any witnesses to Harriet's marriage?

Her witnesses were Horatio Nelson Godfrey (my great great grandfather) and his sister, Mary Louisa Godfrey so they should be Harriet's cousins. Another one was Charles Harris that is unknown to me. -Steven.

So this messes up the census data if she was gone before 1861. Maybe I will have to try and find some orphanage records are these on the census?

[baemego]

Hi
Henry & family returned to england in 1854.Mary his wife died in england some time between 1854 and his return to Tasmania in 1858..
Harriet returned to Tasmania in 1861..
Harriet married John william jeffries in westbury tasmania in 1862.. their daughter Harriet was born in Melbourne in 1863... John, harriet and family moved to NZ in 1864 on the boat swiftsure.  John having joined the 4th Waikato Militia.. several more children were born in NZ...
hope that helps.. anything more ..?? email *
baemego
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[GreenKiwi]

Thanks, I need to write out all info I have and try and find were to look next, there is four of us working on Harriett.