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Thomas KELLY
« on: Wednesday 23 November 11 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi; I am researching my father, Thomas Kelly. I was born in Forest Gate, London and I believe he moved there from Sunderland prior to that for work, possibly at Fords in Dagenham. I believe he was born around 1928 and that his mothers name might have been Ganley and the family possibly of Irish descent.
I also understand that he had a sister called Alice and a brother called Alf or Alfred.
I have been told that the Irish records office was destroyed by fire around 100 years ago making it difficult to research Irish family history but I am still trying to firm up the Sunderland / London connections.
If this is of any help or if anyone can provide me with further information please get in touch.

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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Welcome!

If anyone is able to help please be mindful not to mention details of anyone who may still be living.  Once dac1083 has made 3 posts it would probably be best to send any information via the Personal Messaging system.

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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 19:26 GMT (UK) »
hi both
rick hope this is ok .
hi dac welcome to rootschat
it looks like you are on the right path with ganley and 1929 i,ve found a birth for reg dist sunderland july- sept  vol 10a page 962 .
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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 19:43 GMT (UK) »
also alfred kelly march 1920 sunderland 10a 1715
alice kelly june 1922 sunderland 10a 1395
there are several more kelly,s with a mothers maiden name ganley and sunderland as a reg dist .
also found these  marriage records for your grandparents
thomas kelly - mary a ganley sept 1912 sunderland 10a 1365
david kelly - jane a ganley  mar 1915  sunderland 10 a  1007
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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 21:13 GMT (UK) »
there is a birth for a Mary Alice Ganley in Sunderland in 1893....? ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 November 11 09:33 GMT (UK) »
On 1901 census, 8yr old Mary Ganley was living with her parents, "Bartholmew" age 42 and Alice age 27, and siblings John and Jane (aged 10 and 3) with many other families at 37 George Street, Sunderland.  The whole family were born in Sunderland and Bartholmew was an ironworker.

If the Irish connection was with this family, it looks like they left Ireland before about 1860.

Because Kelly is such a common surname, you would probably need to buy the correct wedding cert to be sure of Thomas's father's name, then see if you can find him on the Irish 1911 census (free) or English/Welsh 1911 census (pay to view) and take his story back from there.

If you decide to buy certificates, do so from either the Sunderland Register Office (for these certs) or the GRO www.gro.gov.uk - where they will cost about £9 each and not through organisations you find on the net which will charge you much more
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 January 17 17:23 GMT (UK) »
I am also researching a Thomas Kelly (my grandfather) b. 1891 who married Marian (aka Mary) Alice Ganley in 1912. Thomas Kelly b. 1929 was the brother of my mother, Alice b. 1922. The father of Thomas Kelly b. 1891 was John Kelly b. 1853 who married Rachel (?) b.1851. Any info. about my grandfather etc. would be very much appreciated.
Moore
Moraghan
Kelly
Ganley
Goodswen
Loxley
Newhall/Newell

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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 January 17 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family in 1901 census?


http://tinyurl.com/gq3e5ep


If so:

A possibility for Rachael ?

Birth reg:

Sept q 1851
Barnsley
Vol 22
(Either) Page 16 or 16B
Rachel Cherry
Mother's maiden name: SHIRT



Birth reg for daughter Rachel Kelly:

KELLY, RACHEL        Mother's Maiden Nmae CHERRY      
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 615 



Birth reg for son  Matthew Kelly

    
KELLY, MATTHEW        Mother's Maiden Name JERRY      (possible mistranscription for Cherry)
GRO Reference: 1883  M Quarter in STOCKTON  Volume 10A  Page 90



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Re: Thomas KELLY
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 January 17 17:41 GMT (UK) »
That looks a really good possibility, thanks. I am using findmypast and I originally found Matthew Kelly's details but the mother's maiden name wasn't shown so I couldn't be absolutely certain. If you have access to mother's maiden names then, if you wouldn't mind, could you see if Matthew's siblings have the same information.

John b. 1888
Rachel b. 31/1/1889
Thomas b. 30/1/1891
Moore
Moraghan
Kelly
Ganley
Goodswen
Loxley
Newhall/Newell