Annie Kinnier/fenton/Dickens

[cherylj]

Found on IGI

Elizabeth or Betsy Irons
born 1835 All Saints, Northampton

Mr Irons married Eliza 1825 Northampton

Children:

Samuel 1829 St Margarets, Leicester
Henry 1833 St Margarets, Leicester
Eliza/Betsy 1835 All Saints, Northampton
Mary 1838 All Saints, NOrthampton

[seahall]

Hi Cheryl.

On the 1871 Census Elizabeth was a widow as John had died in
1870 but she seems to have been carrying the last child John.

All the children prior to Henry Kinneir were illegitimate.

I did note the marriage of Eliza and William Irons on reply 6
and the link to show it was in Leicester not Northampton.

Elizabeth/Betsey would have been the same person.

Here in Northants, Alan Clarke on my web link below post
does free look-ups on some of his indexes by himself and
Marilyn (Rootschatter "mgeneas" ).

I am allowed to quote from them here so they are the entries
from the original parish records.

Also I have numerous resources as many others have here
to assist where I can.

I try on Rootschat to give folk correct information on their lineages
and hope that they will confirm with birth, marriage, deaths, burial
and Parish Records etc, to en-sure they are tracing the right folk
related to them.

When I started many, many years ago I must have spent over
£1,000 getting original certificates.

Now it so easy with Roots and other forums to assist at a drop
of a hat so to speak. 

Sandy

[cherylj]

Also on the 1861 the son Thomas aged 7 is with his Aunt Mary Ann.

RG9/937, Fol 138, Pg  37, Sch 210, 27, Arundel  St

Sandy

Sandy, could you check this record again and see what year his Aunt Mary was born??  KNowing this may connect the dots for Elizabeth Kinneirs parents, that I may have found.

Cheers

Cheryl

[seahall]

Mary Ann is noted as being 25 on the 1861 census Cheryl.

I spent a while in the Library today trying to find the marriage
of Betsey and John Kinnier in 1862 and came to the conclusion
that it may have been in a Registry Office or a Non-Conformist Church.

I could not find any of the children of Elizabeth being baptised
in All Saints, St Peter's, St Sepulchre's, St. Katherine's Parish Churches
in the Town of Northampton,or the children born to John and Elizabeth.

I did find an obituary for John though just stating he died in the
Lunatic Asylum on August 24th 1870 in the Mercury newspaper.

Sandy

[cherylj]

Hi Sandy, me again, god you must be getting sick of seeing my posts 

The mary I found was Christened in 1838, so I cant be positive on that.

Also you quoted you found a death in the Mercury for a John Kinneir who died on the 24 August 1870.
Are you able to get me a copy of the obituary or let me knwo where you found it??

Cheers

Cheryl

[seahall]

Hi yet again Cheryl. 

Make as many posts as you like if you need us to help you. 

The notice was merely noting the death so not an Obt. naming
names etc.

I will e-mail it to you if you wish.

Sandy

[cherylj]

Hi again Cheryl.

If you have a burial date and place you can look at the G.R.O.
Indexes to see which quarter and Registation District the death
took place in and order it that way.

Also if you wish you could send me a gedcom and I could enter
any other information for you from here although I do not wish
to take over your research else the fun goes out of it. 

I searched Free BMD, http://www.freereg.org.uk, http://www.freecen.org.uk, and Family Search and did not find anything relating to the death/marriage ro birth of John Kinneir/Kinnear/Kinnier/Kernier.

What a p[ain..

[seahall]

It is noted as such on freebmd Cheryl.

Deaths Sep 1870  Kinnear  John  36  Northampton  3b 51

Sandy   

[seahall]

Hi again Cheryl.

I was only joking about the gedcom. I am much too busy making Christmas Cards. 

I have now confirmed and am listing the Dickens/Dickins marriages
at Boughton from 1813-1837 below.

x means they made their mark.

1. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 02 No. 06, 12 Oct 1816
Lydia DICKENS x otp Spinster & William BOTTERIN x otp Bachelor
Witnesses: William Wills x, James Butlin            

2. Boughton By License      
Pg. 08 No. 22, 29 Aug 1822
William DICKENS of Lamport  Bachelor & Sarah CRANFIELD otp Spinster
both being of lawful age
Witnesses: Benj. Cuffley, James Butlin                              

3. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 12 No. 36, 18 Oct 1827
George DICKENS x otp  Bachelor & Elizabeth FAULKNER x otp Spinster
Witnesses: Daniel Corby, William ?x                           

4. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 15 No. 43, 14 Oct 1829
Samuel DICKINS otp Bachelor & Charlotte ALLEN otp Spinster
Witnesses: George Tipler, Sarah Allen

5. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 15 No. 44, 27 Oct 1829
Allen DICKINS x otp & Elizabeth ARTHUR   x otp   
Witnesses: Jane Marshall, Thomas Arthur x

4. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 16 No.47, 22 Feb 1831
Sarah DICKENS x otp & Thomas BLUNT x of Moulton
Witnesses: David Butlin, Daniel Corby

5. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 18 No. 53, 28 Feb 1832
George DICKENS x otp Widower & Elizabeth BUSWELL x otp   
Witnesses: Jos Ward, Daniel Corby            

6. Boughton By Banns
Pg. 20 No. 58, 11 Nov 1834
John DICKENS otp & Hannah MASH otp
Witnesses: Thomas W Mash, Daniel Corby

Although these still need checking against the originals John Dickens
certainly married in Nov not Dec as on the N.M.I.

Off to make some Snow Globe Cards. 

Sandy