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Home Guard Cap Badges
« on: Thursday 17 November 11 12:46 GMT (UK) »
I know that the various Home Guard Units wore the cap badge of their local regiment (for example, the Buckingham Place Home Guard wore the cap badge of the Grenadier Guards; the South Staffordshire Home Guard wore the cap badge of the South Staffordshire Regiment):  but can anyone advise me what the cap badge of the Home Guard (Anti Aircraft) wore?

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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 November 11 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Still the local County badge, once they were affiliated, and AA div patches

As far as I was aware, the local Buck House HG company formed part of the 1st County of London (Westminster) Battalion.
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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 November 11 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks scrimnet....

Ah, my Dad (who're usually quite reliable) told me about the Buck House Company _ I shall take great delight in correcting him on that!

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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 November 11 15:57 GMT (UK) »
just a daft question,so what cap badge does Capt.Mainwaring and company wear in 'Dads Army'?

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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 November 11 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Royal West Kents

But the county patches are made up ones ...CP1 is Croft and Perry, the writers and creators.

Also the pouches worn in the TV series are not Pouches, Home Guard...They are Cases, Binocular 1937 Pattern
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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 November 11 17:14 GMT (UK) »
I did try to make out what badge they wore but couldn't get a good view of it,although i thought it looked like it had a horse on it.

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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 December 15 20:36 GMT (UK) »
The horses name is Invicta .Signals is Jimmy etc .
Originally the Home Guard were not permitted to wear the regimental cap badge until an ordnance was passed in 1941 (from memory).This can help date early photos . Anti Aircraft and Rocket batteries came under the control of the Royal Artillery and so Officers had the advantage of wearing white lanyards  , RA buttons and whatever command arm patch they belonged to .The most notable being Eastern Command AA being the busiest (an upward pointing black archers arm bow and arrow on a red square patch . Woman officers in the Commands had different but equivalent ranks e.g. A Major (male) = Sub Commander (female) .
The early 3/8" wide blue NCO bands on the epaulettes were never withdrawn , neither were the HG epaulette sliders . These were sometimes worn by off duty HGs on civvy coats or the more clandestine units of the Home Guard as they could easily be removed for patrols in cold wet weather conditions when a battledress blouse was essential.But in general terms the normal Home Guard units took on the standard issue rank chevrons etc.
Guards berets with cap badges are often seen worn by Auxiliary Units as well as the more usual FS cap , but they were a completely different kettle of fish altogether ! Some units like the Upper Thames Patrol adopted unique dress based on Naval uniform with a UTP cap badge and the mounted Home Guard patrols (Horse ) adopted standard horse guard or despatch rider kit, puttees and leather bandoliers (RA primer belts or US issue 30-06) depending on rank but with the normal FS cap and county regimental badge.

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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 09:46 GMT (UK) »
To go off on  a slight tangent,  I find  Foyles War  to be very well researched and the story line to stick  very close to what was happening at that date during WW2.   Are the props and uniforms equally accurate?
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Re: Home Guard Cap Badges
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 December 15 11:45 GMT (UK) »
If I manage to upload it, it is a photograph of Members of original 2 and 3 (ICI Paints) Platoon "B" Company, 9 Bucks Battalion Home Guard, 12 September 1944. There are plenty of badges, but none recognisable to me.

My father second from left sitting. Opposite the factory was waste ground on which multiple AA rocket launchers were deployed. A new office block was built on the site post war.

My father was radar plotting officer. He explained to me that the radar screen showed a circle. When enemy aircraft crossed the circle he had to compute where it/they would exit and all rocket launchers would be aligned to that point. He never said that they were ever in action. Strange because ICI was with MacMichael Radio nearby. The Luftwaffe visited Bells Asbestos on the other side of Town frequently.

My father had two patents granted in early 1942. One for improvement to self sealing fuel tanks for aircraft and the other mustard gas self sealing uniforms even if perforated!   

   
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