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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #198 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 17:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Aileen, I will now post all the burial records I could find.

To begin with and to get it out of the way, the last poor relief claim I listed was for Mary Arbuckle, she was the daughter of Archibald, the youngest son of George Arbuckle and Mary Ann Moffat.
She was married to John Tweedlie, here is his burial record.

JOHN TWEEDLIE, coal miner, Glasgow royal Infirmary, usual residence Wishaw. Aged 25 years, married.
Parents - Edward Tweedlie & Catherine Hay.
Interred in 196 Low Public on 18th July 1913.
Lair owned by Edward Tweedlie, coal miner, 11 Brown Street Wishaw.

"Low Public" is the oldest part of Cambusnethan cemetery and dates from 1861. It is not to be confused with "public" or "common ground" which were names given to areas set aside for the interment of paupers.
All dates given here are of burial, which usually took place 2 days after death.

Surprisingly, I found Mary Ann Moffat is interred in the old churchyard at Cambusnethan, it is next to the newer, municipal cemetery (which dates from 1861).
Unfortunately, the records are patchy for the old churchyard, the lair (or plot) book only begins about 1876, before then there are some records mixed in with the new cemetery's day book.
so, all I can say about that particular Davidson plot is that no stone exists on it and that according to the plot book there were 3 interments after 1876 and, that the plot was owned in Victorian times, by Thomas Davidson. The 3 were -

In the centre lair -
AGNES DAVIDSON, aged 77 years, 9th February 1888.
ROBERT DAVIDSON, aged 90 years, 27th December 1899.
MARY ANN ARBUCKLE, aged 67 years, 20th January 1890.

After checking the free index on Scotlandspeople, I found that the above Robert and Agnes both died in Stonehouse parish, her maiden surname was Weir, his mother's maiden surname was Louden.
I checked for children of Robert Davidson and Agnes Weir.

JOHN DAVIDSON, farmer, Stonehouse, aged 70 years, married.
Parents - Robert Davidson & Agnes Weir.
Interred in 496 Low Public, 9th February 1914.

HELEN DAVIDSON, Stonehouse, aged 74 years, widow.
Parents - William Wilson & Margaret Liddell.
Interred in 496 Low Public,  19th August 1915.

JAMES DAVIDSON, manager of stone quarries. Dunfermline, usual residence Burntisland, aged 62 years, married.
Parents - Robert Davidson & Agnes Weir.
Interred in 495 Low Public, 2nd December 1915.

ROBERT DAVIDSON, labourer, Wishaw, aged 74 years, married.
Parents - Robert Davidson & Agnes Weir.
Interred in 166 Private, 23rd September 1910.

ELIZABETH DAVIDSON, housewife, Cocket Hat, aged 28 years, married.
Parents - George Loudon & Elizabeth Hart.
Interred in 166 Private, 28th May 1867.

(The "Private" is a walled section behind the old churchyard and adjoining the cemetery, this was opened in January 1861).

All further interments are in the cemetery.

MARGARET ANDREWS, Wishaw, aged 56 years, married.
Parents - Robert Davidson & Agnes Weir.
Interred in C 83, 23rd September 1893.

JAMES ANDREWS, orchard keeper, Kirkhill, aged 56 years, married.
Parents - James Andrews & Janet Gibson.
Interred in C 83, 18th January 1888.

The next one is bound to be one of yours, with the wonderful Scottish naming custom of middle names.

ROBERT DAVIDSON MAXWELL, Morningside, aged 11 months.
Parents - John Maxwell & Agnes Weir Davidson.
Interred in E 1438, 28th July 1914.

GEORGE ARBUCKLE, coal miner, Wishaw, aged 45 years, married.
Parents - Andrew Arbuckle & Mary Shaw.
Interred in common ground, 23rd June 1869.

JOHN ARBUCKLE, miner, Wishaw, aged 31 years, married.
Parents - George Arbuckle & Mary Ann Moffat.
Interred in C 58, 8th June 1880.

GEORGE ARBUCKLE, Wishaw, aged 18 months.
Parents - John Arbuckle & Marion McNaughton.
Interred in C 58, 20th August 1881.

JESSIE E. DONALDSON
, Cambusnethan, aged 1 month.
Parents - James Donaldson & Marion McNaughton.
Interred in C 58, 9th August 1888.

JAMES DONALDSON, janitor YMCA, Wishaw, aged 74 years, married.
Parents - Francis Donaldson & Marion Brownlie.
Interred in C 58, 26th December 1912.

ROBERT McCANSH, Hamilton, aged 5 years.
Parents - George McCansh & Mary Ann Arbuckle.
Interred in E 657, 19th November 1897.

That's all I have for the moment Aileen, if and when I can find the 1931 and 1933 burials I'll let you know. Any questions on anything I've listed so far, please just ask.



Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #199 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 18:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Lodger,

Well where do I start? Thank you SO much for all the information on the Arbuckles. Fascinating! I have indeed used Ancestry to build my family tree and have come across the Poor Relief applications you shared. George Arbuckle started out as a handloom weaver but then ended up in the mines, a reflection no doubt of the changing times. I suspect it was a very hard life for him that he did not enjoy, I wish I could ask him!

My granny was born in Morningside Square, Cambusnethan. I found some interesting information on this on a history of Scottish Coal Mining website and also found George's death listed. I also found that my granny's dad, who had been a ploughman was listed as a pithead labourer on her birth extract but by the time of the next census he was back on a farm! I wonder if his new wife was hoping he might work in the mine so she could stay close to her family.

I am a bit overwhelmed by the information on all the Davidson's and Arbuckle connections who are in Cambusnethan. Thank you so much for sharing all this with me. I now need to go and match them up to their profile's on my tree!

It would be great if you do happen to find anything about Thomas and Agnes but I am equally happy to keep plodding on if you have any suggestions of where I should look (although it loks to me as if you have a VERY extensive record of information to hand!

I do have another question for you, if I may? I picked up a thread for some of the cemeteries in and around Carstairs, Pettinain, Covinton and Thankerton in my quest to find more ancestors and I noticed that you have provided a lot of information on this thread too. Do I need to post their information  there?

Many thanks again,
Aileen
McKerlie/McCarlie and McKie - Wigtownshire, Kirkcudbrightshire and beyond.
Hutchison, Davidson, Arbuckle, Girdwood - Lanarkshire.
Mitchell and McLean - Scottish Borders, Highlands.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #200 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Aileen, happy to help!
I have a copy of Sheila Scott's "Upper Ward of Lanarkshire" monumental inscriptions, which includes all those country parishes you mentioned, so if you need a look-up, it would be best if you started a new thread, in case someone else is researching the same families.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #201 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 20:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you - will get onto that.

I have just been digesting the information about the lair with Robert and Agnes Davidson and Mary Ann Arbuckle. You said that in Victorian times the lair was owned by Thomas Davidson - I would have to say that would be my great, great grandfather. It is strange that his parents and mother-in-law are together, perhaps they wanted to make sure she Mary Ann didn't end up like George.

As I said before - fascinating.

Many thanks again,
Aileen
McKerlie/McCarlie and McKie - Wigtownshire, Kirkcudbrightshire and beyond.
Hutchison, Davidson, Arbuckle, Girdwood - Lanarkshire.
Mitchell and McLean - Scottish Borders, Highlands.


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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #202 on: Thursday 08 June 23 10:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Aileen,

Here is the original information you were looking for.

I still don't have the section but the lair number is 1094. I'll get back to you with that later.

3 interments in that lair.

THOMAS DAVIDSON, weigher, 49 Torbush Square Morningside. Aged 78 years, married.
Parents - Robert Davidson & Agnes Weir.
Interred 13th August 1931.

AGNES DAVIDSON, housewife, 100 Morningside Road Newmains. Aged 77 years, widow.
Parents - George Arbuckle & Mary Ann Moffat.
Interred 4th September 1933.

ROBERT DAVIDSON, 100 Morningside Road Newmains. Aged 56 years, married.
Parents - Thomas Davidson & Agnes Arbuckle.
Interred 3rs January 1947.

If you aren't local, I can go to the cemetery and check for a headstone.
I'll let you know the section as soon as possible.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #203 on: Thursday 08 June 23 11:18 BST (UK) »
Here's two I missed -

JOHN MAXWELL, Morningside, aged 13 months.
Parents - John Maxwell & Agnes Weir Davidson.
Interred in E 1438, 4th March 1908.

THOMAS DAVIDSON, 48 Torbush Square Morningside. Aged 7 days.
Parents - Thomas Davidson & Jeanie Stirling.
Interred in E 2020, 31st July 1916.
Lair owned by Thomas Davidson junior, coal miner, 48 Torbush Square Morningside.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #204 on: Thursday 08 June 23 12:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Aileen, lair 1094 is in section A.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #205 on: Thursday 08 June 23 12:58 BST (UK) »
Hello Lodger,

I am beyond grateful for all your help in tracking down my ancestors. I am planning a trip with my mum (we are in the Borders) as she has never visited Cambusnethan where her mum was born. It will also be very special for us to now be able to visit the cemetery with all the family information.

This is also spurring me on to get back on the hunt for others as well!

With grateful thanks,
Aileen
McKerlie/McCarlie and McKie - Wigtownshire, Kirkcudbrightshire and beyond.
Hutchison, Davidson, Arbuckle, Girdwood - Lanarkshire.
Mitchell and McLean - Scottish Borders, Highlands.

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Re: Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2
« Reply #206 on: Thursday 08 June 23 18:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Aileen, the weather wasn't too hot today, so I went over to the cemetery and had a look for your family headstones. It's a huge cemetery and only a small percentage of the stones are numbered, so this will save you a lot of searching when you come.
I will have to make several posts as Rootschat only allow 500KB of pictures (or whatever it is) to each post.

First of all, 2 pictures of the old churchyard showing the approximate site of the Davidson plot, the one where Mary Ann Moffat is interred. The sign and the path are new, as is the fence. I think the plot is just about where that stupid sign is!

Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.