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Re: ALLAN lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 November 11 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Apologies to all,The surname I should be chasing is "ALLEN,Herbert Alfred" not "Allan" I was always led to believe that he owned Allan's music so this is why I misspelt it.
Now I am wondering if this was another tale told to me by my parents when I was young, like the one about my dad riding the Kangaroo's at Riponlea house.All other details are correct though so I will keep hunting for info on the

Allen family and his prop in Mt Eliza.Now all the more interesting because I'm curious as to how he made his fortune if not through music and theatre ownership.
Thanks to all and hope that I haven't caused to much inconvenience.

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 November 11 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Genni,
Sorry I misspell the surname but I am sure the property in Mt Eliza did belong to Herbert Allen,I recall there were lengthy discussions about my parents taking over the gatekeepers house
located on the property.

Crankyvet.


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« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 November 11 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

Found a reference to Mt Eliza.

Percy Ameil(Amiel) ALLEN resided at Tower Rd, Mt Eliza between 1937 and 1963 according to the electoral rolls.
He was an architect.
He died  in Mt Eliza in 1966 (Reg: 19514) aged 81.

Also Alfred James ALLEN died in N Brunswick 1938 aged 81. (parents: William & Esther E (Unknown)  According to his marriage to Sophia he was born in St Kilda.

Herbert's 1st wife (Eleah Minnie) died in 1957, so that narrows the Marriage time frame even further.

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 November 11 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Genni,
boy that jolted the old memory,yep, Percy Allen!! May have been the brother of Herbert?Sorry for being all over the place with this but will now need to get details on Percy and see just where Herbert fits in.
Cant thank you enough, I would never have remembered that.

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« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 November 11 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Genni,
sorry to bother you again, did you happen to know the number of the property on Tower Road?

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 November 11 13:08 GMT (UK) »


Sorry, no number, probably wouldn't have been back then, more than likely owned a whole section.  I'll check the rate books on Wednesday at the Library. 
Percy was Herberts older brother, they appear to be the only children of Alfred & Sophia to have survived infancy.

Hebert Also served WW1 and his occupation was listed as commercial Traveller.

Googling his name came up with the following at the PROV.
Litigation Files (sample only retianed) - don't know what that meants
233/1967
Estate of Herbert Alfred Allen Gladys Christine Allen and Equity Trustees Vo
VPRS 8664 P0003 4

So there might be a will you could check out at the PROV.

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Genni
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 November 11 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Genni,
looking forward to hearing from you and once again, thank you so much for all you have done.

Crankyvet.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 November 11 23:27 GMT (UK) »
For your interest and for your records, here is the marriage of  ALFRED JAMES ALLEN's parents in Victoria. They were having children in the St Kilda area in the years following.

ALLEN  William
BUNDEY Esther Elizabeth
Year 1851
Reg Number 29280
Denomination  Church of England
Parish St Peters, Melbourne
Fiche 424


ADDING

Here is ESTHER arriving in Australia ;D

 BUNDY ESTHER E.
Date 21 FEB 1849
Ship  LABUAN
Book  4A page 19


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« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 November 11 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Percy Allen!! May have been the brother of Herbert crankyvet

Yes, that's right.

Deaths

ALLEN Herbert Alfred
Father Alfred James
Mother Sophia  UNKNOWN
Death Place BALW
Age 78
Year 1966
Reg Number 9980



ALLEN Percy Amiel
Father Alfred James
Mother Sophia Ida  HENSCHELL
Death Place MTEL =Mt Eliza
Age 81
Year 1966
Reg 19514

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