BAILLIE, DOWNS - NEW MONKLAND, SHOTTS

[geneaglutton]

Hi Sancti,

She probably died in New Monkland.  That is where she was married and where her children were born.
The last child was born there in 1811.  Thank you for your interest.

Kathy

[Country Lass]

Hi

John Baillie b c 1766, married to Mary Hill is the brother of William married to Margaret Downs. John died in 1855 in Slammanan at the home of his son George.

His family were John b 1792, Ludovic b 1794, James 1796, David b 1798, William b 1800, George b 1803 and Mary b 1806 All were born in Shotts Parish.

Country Lass

[achra]

Hi,

How do you know that John and William are brothers?  I see the possibility but haven't found proof.  I would love to have found that connection!

Thanks,
Achra

[Country Lass]

Hi Achra

John's parents on his death certificate in 1855 are given as Mary Loudon and John Baillie. William's parents on his death cert. in 1858 are also John Baillie and Mary Loudon. I have taken that as proof. Also William is living at Crook Brough in 1841 and John at Crook, both farms in Shotts Parish. Presumably they are neighbouring farms which suggests they could be related. I hope this helps.

Country Lass

Country Lass

[achra]

Thanks, Country Lass!

This is wonderful.  Now I will try to connect more Baillies from the information I have. 

Here's William Baillie's death information:
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Death Entry, information as found at New Register House, July 2002

District registration and entry number: New Monkland, 651/2 #156
Name and Surname:William Baillie
Age at death:76
Occupation: Farmer
Date of death: September 21st, 1858, 9h30 PM
Place of death:Clarkston
Marital Status: Married
Name of spouse:
Name of father: John Baillie (dec)
Occupation of father: Farmer
Name of mother: Mary Louden (dec)
Cause of death: General Debility 6 weeks, James Cullen MD, Sept 18th
Name of informant: William Baillie
Relationship to deceased: son - not present
Additional notes: burial place - Shotts Churchyard (Kirk O' Shotts?) -James Baxter, sexton
Registered Sept 23rd at New Monkland, John Macarthur, Registrar
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I have all sorts of Baillie miscellaneous, including a possible death for John Baillie senior, and for Mary Louden, as follows:

A possible from Jim Bundy's transcription - Bankhead, not Bankend - a possible error in transcription?
1815 Oct 15
To John Baillie Bankhead 85   Mortcloth Money 13 sh
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From Shotts Mortality Book - could this be William Baillie's mother, MaryLouden?  The Baillie family were in Bankend at that time.

The best Pall or Mortcloth
1816 July  9 Mrs Baillie Senr Bankend "13"

and again - same person, different address,  neighbouring farm, possibly, or same farm.  There is a Crook Brough over Bankend in the 1841 census with Baillies living there.

Mort Cloth Money
1816 July 9 To Mrs Baillie Senr Crook "13"
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I also have some deaths of children to a William Baillie at Foulshiels - could that be William, son of John, nephew of my William?

Achra

[achra]

Hi Kathy (geneaglutton),

I have a bit of information on the Ingles/Inglis family.  Here's some of what I have:
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From the IGI - patron submitted (I always question those) but the place is right - Dalmacloudy, which I take to be a variation/mis-transcription of Dalmacoulter.

David Ingles
Male
Birth:  27 FEB 1715   Dalmacloudy, , Lanark, Scotland
Father:  David Ingles
Mother:  Janet Allan
Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church
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Betty Zuil (mis-transcsription, the 'Y' to a 'Z')
Female
Birth:  About 1722   Of Dama Coulder, New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Marriages:
Spouse:  David Ingles 
Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
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MARY INGLIS
Female
Christening:  30 DEC 1744   New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  DAVID INGLIS
Mother:  BETTY YUIL
Source Information:
C116512  1693 - 1744  1066599, 0102958   Film  6901141   Film
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DAVID INGLES
Male
Christening:  02 MAR 1746   New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  DAVID INGLES 
Mother:  BETTY ZUIL OR YUIL
Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
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Some children of John Thomson and Mary Ingles - Mitchell Library, OPR film, July 2002.

1765 - March 27th?  John Thomson and Mary Ingles, Andrew, in Rochcraig
1766 - April 13th.  John Thomson and Mary Ingles, Beththea, in Dalmacoulder
1769 - May 26th.  John Thomson and Mary Ingles, Jean in Whiteridge
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and another one from the IGI, patron submitted
DAVID THOMSON
Male
Christening:  22 SEP 1771   New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOHN THOMSON
Mother:  MARY INGLES
Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
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and a possible Bethea in the 1841 census

Betty Thomson is most likely Beththea

1841 census
Piece: SCT1841/651 Place: New Monkland -Lanarkshire Enumeration District:4
Civil Parish: New Monkland Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:Airdrie (West)
Folio: 17 Page: 13
Address: Bells Street

Surname        First name(s)  Sex       Age       Occupation     WhereBorn
GARTSHORE George         M         35        Sawyer         Lanarkshire
GARTSHORE      Margaret       F         5                   Lanarkshire
GARTSHORE Janet          F         3                   Lanarkshire
THOMSON   Betty          F         70                  Lanarkshire
PATERSON  Betty          F         15                  Lanarkshire
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Let me know what you think!
Achra