Augustus Charles James WARREN and Rev Robert WARREN

[woodchurch]

I would appreciate help in identifying/locating this gentleman, who married Isabella Clarke daughter of William Clarke of Farren, See http://www.h-f-h.org.uk/gallery/crawfords.pdf,  page 46.  Augustus is given as being of Old Court, Cork, but which one? Bing Maps gives five Old Courts in County Cork, two near Ballincurrig (probably a duplication), one south east of Cork city, one west of Skibereen and one beside Ballincollig.  The last one is only a few miles from the bride's home but that may just be a coincidence.  From Familysearch I have found that they married in 1872 at Macroom and that Augustus' father was a Reverend Robert Warren.    Can anyone track down the parish where Rev. Warren was in charge or any more details?  Many thanks!

[shanew147]

The Church of Ireland section of the Ecclesiastical directory of Thom's 1872 shows a Robert Warren as the rector of the parish of Cannaway, post town is Crookstown.


Shane

[shanew147]

in case you dont have the actual marriage cert - these are the details you need to order one :

  Name: Augustus Charles James Warren
  Registration district:   Macroom
  Event type: Marriage
  Year: 1872
  Volume :   15 / Page: 283

  Name: Isabella Maria Clarke
  [same index references as Augustus]

see :
  Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
  Details included on a Marriage Cert


Shane

[Pastmagic]

http://www.corkpastandpresent.ie/history/coleschurchandparishrecords/colesrecordsdioceseofcork/cole_cork_27-52.pdf

see p 30 for more about the Rev Robert Shane mentions - think this is the one you need, as he does have son Augustus. Note that the parish area changed - last line on page.
The local school has this to say about the name:
http://canoveens.com/location.html

PM

[Pastmagic]

Marlborough College register from 1843 to 1904 inclusive:
   
books.google.ie
Marlborough College - 1905 - 753 pages - Snippet view
May 23, 1847 ; 1. Xmas 1862. JH Warren, Augustus Charles James, s. of the Rev. R. Warren,  Crookstown ... JHACJ Warren, Esq., Old Court, Co. Cork Entrances in August, 1860

Can't see any further, but might be worth emailing the Marlborough College Archivist.
http://www.marlboroughcollege.org/about-us/college-history/

Given the area and the first names, you might check to see if there is a connection with this family:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0gsl/

Pm

[woodchurch]

Cannaway = Ballincollig just about, that's excellent, and the Augustus Warren of Warren's Court looks a liely connection too, thanks for your immediate reactions Shane and PastMagic - it must be raining or nothing on television!  For the record I have now found the three daughters of William Clarke of Farren, namely Maria Francis who married William Lumley Perrier Junior, Helena Evelyn who married William Thomas Schreiber and now Isabella and Augustus Warren, all from within a few miles of Farren.  More trails to follow, and new sources to check, many thanks, Martin

[Pastmagic]

http://thepeerage.com/p36578.htm
Might give you a shortcut!

For a Will signed 4 Mar 1858 of William Thomas Schreiber of Annaghmore House, Co. Cork,
see:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=173-hb76&cid=-1#-1
Schreiber family estates  HB 76/1  1822-1858

9 docs

Contents:
Bundle of marriage settlements, probates and appointments of trustees of the Schreiber family
Includes:
Marriage settlement 24 July 1822 of James Alfred Schreiber, Captain of Dragoon Guards, quartered in the City of Cork, with Mary, daughter of Thomas Ware of Cork;
Will 18 Aug 1840 of Maj. James Alfred Schreiber of Melton;
Will 9 Feb 1853 of Capt George Alfred Schreiber of the 70th Regiment of Foot, Calcutta;
Marriage settlement of 9 Oct 1854 of William Thomas Schreiber esq of Annaghmore House, Cork (son of James Alfred Schreiber) with Sarah Martha Meade of Innishannon, Co. Cork;
Will 20 Feb 1857 of Mary Schreiber, of Melbury Abbas, Dorset, widow of James Alfred Schreiber
Will signed 4 Mar 1858 of William Thomas Schreiber of Annaghmore House, Co. Cork

[woodchurch]

That's great, and yes the Rev Robert Warren would have been a nephew of the first Sir Augustus Warren, elder brother to the Rev's father Robert, and both being sons of Sir Robert Warren of Warrens Court.  Warrens Court (aka Kilbarry) is about 1km west of Crookstown and 6 miles west of Farran along the N22,  and presumably part of Cannaway Parish.  http://www.landedestates.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=1886 is good.

Re the Schreibers, thanks for the information re the Suffolk documents.  Annaghmore House is about 10 miles due south of Farran near Crossbarry and a mile to the east of Inishannon. The Landed Estates website also connects the Warrens with Annaghmore at some time.  So that sorts out all three of William Clarke's daughters. People didn't travel far to match up their children in those days!  Now onto Uncle Oscar in Argentina! Many thanks again, Martin

[Pastmagic]

Who is Uncle Oscar in Argentina? ( I have family there myself since 1820) do you need a hand with him?
Pm