Emily MATTHEWS birth?

[mum mum]

Hi,
I am posting this for a friend who cannot find any information about her Grandmothers birth.

Emily Matthews married Thomas Oswald Hayes in April 1918 at Cowra NSW. We do not need any information about this couple after their marriage, they had 8 children, 3 of whom are still living.

Emily and Thomas were married in the Church of England Cowra, by John Parr, Officiating Minister, witnesses were Annie Parr and Ethel Peterson.

Thomas was a farmer of Grenfell, parents Patrick Hayes and Norah Mary Castles, born at Nyngan age 26.

Emily Matthews was 19 years old, occupation, private life, of Grenfell NSW, born at Chiltern Vic. Parents Arthur Matthews, deceased and Annie, nee Rowe. The consent of the brides mother Annie Stokes was given in writing for the marriage.

We cannot find a birth for Emily, or any marriages that fit for Arthur Matthews and Annie Rowe, or another marriage for Annie to Stokes after Arthur Matthews death, date and place unknown.

Any ideas?

mum mum

[majm]

Hi Mum Mum,

I will try to find MATTHEWS/ ROWE/ STOKES in Cowra and surrounds in 1913.

EDIT 1 
NSW ER 1913 LACHLAN oops, it was  LYNDHURST polling at Cowra ALL for Stokes
Mary Ann Keswick-street domestic duties,
Agnes Jane F Brisbane-street domestic duties
Stokes Marion Elsie Brisbane-street domestic duties
Mary Helen F Brisbane-street domestic duties
William Ashman, Brisbane-street financial agent

EDIT 2, SAME roll, polling at Morongla Creek
Arthur Stokes, labourer   (none surnamed Rowe at this polling place)

Edit 3 This could be Emily's Mum
NSW ER 1913, LYNDHURST, polling at Woodstock.
Annie STOKES, of Woodstock, domestic duties
Daniel STOKES, of Woodstock, railway night officer
Ethel Grose STOKES, of Woodstock, domestic duties.
(none surnamed ROWE, MATTHEWS (or variations)

Cheers,  JM

[mum mum]

Thanks, I will see what shows up for Annie and Daniel Stokes.
mum mum

Daniel Stokes married Ethel G Tucker at Cowra in 1910. Annie could be his stepmother though?

[mum mum]

Hi

Not that Daniel Stokes, it looks like he was born1883 at Carcoa, parents George and Annie.

A couple more thoughts, Emily may have had a sister Catherine or Katherine, my friends mother remembered a photo said to be of Emily's sister.

Emily was also thought to be educated and played piano.

Emily died in 1936, I must find out if she left a will or what happened to her property, the children didn't get it or the husband who died at the same time.

mum mum

[majm]

agh ... so that Annie Stokes would most likely be Daniel's mum and the Ethel was Daniel's wife.


  I will pull thinking cap down harder.

Cheers,  JM

[~MERLIN~]

These are births I can see on the VIC index, they might be worth investigating further 

MATTHEWS Emily Jane b. 1900 RUTHERGLEN #21999
Father: Edward Charles
Mother: Elizabeth Ann ROWLANDS
 
MATTHEWS Arthur Ernest 1896 CHILTERN #18638
Father: Edward
Mother: Elizabeth Ann ROWLANDS

MATTHEWS Eliz Ann 1894 CHILTERN #19317
Father: Edwd
Mother: Eliz Ann ROWLANDS

[mum mum]

Hi Merlin,
These births had been suggested to my friend by somebody else, she seems sure the name was Rowe. I'm not so sure.
I just looked for a marriage for that couple but can't seem to find anything in Vic, I better try NSW.

mum mum

[~MERLIN~]

Yes, perhaps mum left dad & dropped the Elizabeth, shortened her surname & took up with a Mr Stokes, stranger things have happened 

Considering this is an Emily Matthews born right year & area you are looking for with a brother named Arthur is why I suggested it 

[mum mum]

Yes, just considering that myself, perhaps Dad left and Mum found another man, we had already thought that was possible as there is no remarriage.

Now, why can't I find the first marriage? I may get my friend to buy the birth certificate to see what it tells us.
mum mum