Apprentices and masters 1700 to 1810 - No longer available

[Framesmiths1816]

Hi Heather,

These are all the Rassell entries I can find.

Dec. 16th 1717 John Baigont of Midhurst Sussex ShovelTreeMak.r - Rob.t son of  Wm Rassell Dece'd 30th Sept 1717

26th June 1802 Rich'd Binsted Havant Co of Hamps. Rich'd Rassell

6th June 1786 Tho' Cobden & Geo. Cooper; Chichester Co of Sussex Carpenters - Rob.t Rassell

Thursday Aug.t 4th 1743 Will. Lymbery of Chatham in Kent Shipwright - John son of Geo. Rassell of Rochester.

Hope this is useful

FS

[Framesmiths1816]

Thank you FS.  The earliest Rassells I have are in Hampshire around 1750 so that might fit.  (If the database is searchable online then by all means send me a link and I'll do it myself  ).

That's interesting about your plasterers and something I'd not thought of.  Did your plasterers live to old age?  Mine seem to have made it to late 70s/early 80s in most cases - I was surprised as I thought the dusty nature of their work might have lead to lung disease and an early demise but it seems not.

Heather

They seem to live to early / mid 70's. but they had hard lives and very big families (15 and 13 children in two generations). I suspect from my own experience of DIY that puttung plaster up is not such a dusty occupation whereas pulling it down or sanding it is and these would have been labourer's jobs. I my families case I suspect the trade was passed father to son(s) without a formal apprenticeship.

FS

PS - see previous post for Rassells

[HeatherLynne]

Many thanks for your searches FS, will check this out later when I have a chance.

As for the dustiness or otherwise of plastering, I suppose you're right.  My plasterers didn't have quite such large families although they did tend to have 2 or 3 wives each   

Good luck with your research and thanks for your help
Heather

[Framesmiths1816]

Opps, sorry Heather I copied out the 1802 incorrectly. It should be

26th June 1802 Rich'd Binsted Havant Co of Hamps Carpenter. Rich'd Rassell

FS

[chfl]

Thanks for your earlier reply on Samuel Gilbert, cordwainer in Osgathorpe was interesting as this profession was continued by his grandson, my great grandfather
Are there any records of Kings in Leicestershire, and also Butlers  (possibly Blacksmiths) in Nottinghamshire/

Chris

[Framesmiths1816]

Thanks for your earlier reply on Samuel Gilbert, cordwainer in Osgathorpe was interesting as this profession was continued by his grandson, my great grandfather
Are there any records of Kings in Leicestershire, and also Butlers  (possibly Blacksmiths) in Nottinghamshire/

Chris

Hi Chris,

King Leicestershire - There are approx' 100 entries. Any more information to narrow it down a bit?

Butler Nottinghamshire
1711 Sept' 4th Rob.t Butler of the town and cou.y of Notts Blacksmith - Tho.s son of W.m Harvey of the town and cou.y of Notts Felmonger

This is the only Blacksmith entry. Others are Cordwainers, Grocers, Bakers and Ropers.

FS

[chfl]

Hello again,

I am looking for Kings from Osgathorpe and also from Twycross both in leicestershire

Chris

[Framesmiths1816]

Hi Chris,

Twycross - the only one I can see is this one
Monday Jan' 10th 1736 Will King of Twicross in Leicester butcher - Tho.s son of Tho.s Hodgkins of Do ( I think Do (ditto) = Twycross but it isn't clear)

There are none for Osgathorp I can find. The closest are Loughborough Hinckley, Long Whatton and Stoke Golding.

FS

[Winterbloom21]

Hi Framesmith - I am looking for a George Serjeant who was a cabinetmaker in St. Pancras London (or anywhere in the East End of London) and also a George Serjeant who was a watchmaker (spellings vary horribly).    Many thanks for your offer. S