Apprentices and masters 1700 to 1810 - No longer available

[Framesmiths1816]

Hi Winterbloom,

I cannot see any obvious entries. No cabinet makers or watch makers, although they might be guilds so Metropolitan Archives might be another route. In the greater London area there is a Pewterer, a Tallow Chandler, a baker and one that looks like a Silk Throwsler?

FS

[Winterbloom21]

Thanks FS.  It was a long shot with a bit of guesswork thrown in.     I'm trying to match up an 1819 birth with a 1790s potential father and just wondered if the father would have had the same occupation as the son, which I know to be cabinetmaker.     I found one in 1791 who was a watchmaker and one in 1792 who didn't say what he was.     I will get down to the Met Archives one day and have a look there.  Thanks again.  Siobhan

[Gert]

Hi Framesmith,

Thank you for the offer, i have 2 that  i think were born to late for what you have, but as they are both brick walls, here goes,

John Gough born Leicester abt 1802 was a tailor.

John Spencer born Crich Derbyshire abt 1803 was a corn miller in Matlock.

Any help appreciated

Gert

[Framesmiths1816]

Hi Gert,

The only 2 Goughs are both in Shropshire (bricklayer and currier) and as you say, the dates make it unlikley they will be in the list. Given most apprenticeships started at about 14 although even if they started at 10 they would still missed out.

There is a John Spencer as follows who could be connected maybe?
8th July 1805 John Spencer (Master)  of ( Brapington ?) County of Derbyshire Blacksmith - Henry Whatson.
The record is also dated 1803 and on is the date of the start and the other is the date the duty was paid.

Guess this isn;t very helpful, sorry.

FS

[Gert]

Thank you for looking Framesmith.

Gert

[ourbill]

I hope you are still doing the kind business in helping us find things which would otherwise cost the earth.

Would you kindly have a look if any of the below are mentioned.

They were both tailors, and I know from the censuses that John was a Master till his death in 1877.

George Emerson
Christened: 30 July 1769 St Margaret, Leicester.
John Emerson
Born: 29 Nov 1791
Christened: 11 Dec 1791 All Saints, Leicester.

[Framesmiths1816]

Hi ourbill,

There is one possible entry for Leicestershire but not for  either of the two names given.

Tho.s Emerson - Sheepshed Co. of Leicester Taylor - Jn.o Smith

Dated payment 27th Nov 1795. Could Thomas Emerson (master Tailor) be a brother of George?

There is this one as well but Emerson seems to be a rare name in this spelling at least.

John Sneath of Birmingham Taylor - Geo. son of rob:t Emerson 16th June 1730 (payment dated 28th Sept 1731

I cannot find any Tailors in the east midlands spelt Emmerson although there are many other  trades.

ATB - FS

[ourbill]

Framesmiths1816

Many thanks for your reply.
It seems that none fit. Could you possibly try Lincoln and Rutland for George.
May I ask what you are  using?

I've been toying with sending for the Merchant Taylors' Company Membership Index 1530-1928 from Docklands Ancestors but at £31, I decided to wait till I found somebody who has used it so they can give me a report before I bought it.

[Framesmiths1816]

I am sorry to write that I nolonger have access to the information that enabled me to do these searches.

Sorry folkes