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US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« on: Monday 07 November 11 02:45 GMT (UK) »
Could SKS check the US Federal Census Mortality Schedule please for Terrance KEATING born ca 1839 Ireland died Dec 1880 New Jersey please? I found him in the index but don't have access to the full entry.

I'm trying to determine if he's my Terence KEATING baptised Dec 1838 in Ireland. He may also appear in the 1880 census - I'd love to know if he had any family or any other clues that might confirm he's the right one.

Many thanks
Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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Re: US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 November 11 05:07 GMT (UK) »
I see Terrence born about 1839, age 41 cause of death 'Fac of Vertibia', married, laborer, died Dec 1880 in Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey. 

There are several other records. One lists his date of death as Dec 8, 1880.

 And  the 'Elizabeth Merchants' Union Directory 1876', has Terrence Keating, occupation Moulder, address 23_ (last digit illegible) Magnolia Avenue.

Let me know what else you need.  I'll be happy to help.
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Re: US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 November 11 05:19 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, maryn1913, that's the one. Thanks also for the info from the directory.

Would you mind having a look in the 1880 census for a wife or children?

Jan

England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 November 11 06:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Siorry, I just realised I had checked this lead before - doesn't say much for my note-taking :-(

I found a death for Mary Keating in Jan 1880 in  Elizabeth so possibly Terrance's wife.

I also found two children to a Terrance and Mary Keating (nee McCronk or McCrink) - Adelaide b 1877 and Catherine Anna b 1879 both in Elizabeth but no further sign of them.

Maybe they were fostered out or adopted.





England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 November 11 06:31 GMT (UK) »
okay.
Agnew, Clarke (from Dundee), Divers, Docherty, McAuley, McLean, Newland, Newlands, Pawelski, Scullion, Smith (John C. & Maria), Whelan

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Re: US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 November 11 14:10 GMT (UK) »
There is a New Jersey Archives death index that covers this time here:  https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/DeathIndex.aspx  That gives Terrance's death as 1879, but there is a record here that gives it as 1880:  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MTBJ-KNS/p1

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Re: US Federal Census Mortality Schedule lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 November 11 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, great site. A bit confusing though, with the two different death dates.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, KIRBY, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 November 11 13:15 GMT (UK) »
It is rather odd.  It seems that the 1880 Mortality Schedule should have covered Dec. 1879 rather than Dec. 1880, so I'm inclined to think the 1879 date might be correct.  http://www.deathindexes.com/censusmortality.html

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 November 11 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Just my opinion, but when a death occurs, it needs to be registered with the state.  All that official stuff takes time as government workers are known for their ability to make the job last as long as possible (job security).

So, if he died on Dec 8, 1879 his death certificate was probably not REGISTERED until January 1880.  That's probably why it was listed on the 1880 census count for deceased people.

Anyway, was his wife's name Margaret?  If so, she may be the same Margaret who  died in a TB hospital around the same time.  Still looking  at that one.
Agnew, Clarke (from Dundee), Divers, Docherty, McAuley, McLean, Newland, Newlands, Pawelski, Scullion, Smith (John C. & Maria), Whelan