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Re: Hinchey
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 05 November 11 23:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Thelly

So the record for Catherine on the Royal Saxon is not your Catherine, she is too old, so you need to look for another Catherine Hinchey coming to Tasmania, let us know how you get on with the marriage certificate, if you send me your e-mail details via a PM I will send you the record of Catherine on the Royal Saxon and you can put this to other family members who have been researching Catherine
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 05 November 11 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi MargP,

I know it is very confusing, some researchers here have suggested that her father was sent to Australia a a convict, and the family followed, but her mother and brothers would show up somewhere.

Thanks again,
Thelly

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 November 11 00:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Thelly

My gut feeling on this,is that the Royal Saxon is the correct record for Catherine, and that you may have the wrong parents for her, she is traveling with a Mary Hickey and she  is married Laurence Hickey, did he have a sister Mary,Catherine DOB on the marriage could have been mistranscribed or she lied about her age?

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 November 11 01:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi MargP,

You could be right, although I believe the information about Catherine came from family records, and I just presumed they were correct, because the family members who researched the Hincheys were grandchildren or nieces and nephews, and I am only a g-g-grandchild.

Laurence did have a sister Mary, and two brothers Daniel and Patrick, their parents were Laurence and Bridget, I don't know Bridget's maiden name.

Laurence was in the British Army Royal Lincolnshire Regiment, he was aged 20 years when he was charged with mutiny against his superior, Colour Sgt Richard Gwydr, Laurence while drunk fired a musket at him, he was tried and convicted at Fort William, Calcutta, India, and transported to Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) as a guest of His Majesty, Laurence never returned to Ireland or England.

Perhaps as you suggested Catherine came from Ireland, and there was a reason her age was out by 10 years, the inscription on her headstone gives her name and 1833-1913.  If you are correct how do I go about finding the exact information about her?

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Thelly


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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 November 11 07:38 GMT (UK) »
hi all
my 2 ha,peth on this ,  ;D  canyou ask who ever gave you this info if the dates in question are/have been checked as definitive proof to be correct only like i sais earlier woth the 1841 cen is notorious for inaccuracies especially with the buisiness of rounding down birth years in which case the year date i gave for catherine of 1838 rounded down on the census would be 1833 which you say is correct .
unfortunately in all our searches if you look solely on age given they can vary from census to census by as much as 5 years anyway , as i see it they are the only guide we have but not definitive proof of accuracy so allowances have to be made they are only as good as the info people wrote down and i,m sorry to harp on but what we have to remember is that most folk back then could neither read or write so big mistakes with names dates and places being written down wrong is all too common .

sorry to ramble on but it,s what i do best  ;D ;D
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Re: Hinchey
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 November 11 07:48 GMT (UK) »
me again
just reread your reply Thelly  and realised i didn,t explain the 2 williams i posted in the birth info i put both down as they were both from manchester and within your time frame so either could be right or as you say perhaps the earliest one died my apologies on not saying earlier and for any confusion caused .
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 06 November 11 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trevor,

Thanks for getting back to me, Catherine was supposed to have come out here on the Royal Saxon in 1844, which would have made her only 10 years old, one of your colleagues, MargP has suggested that Catherine was in fact 20 years of age, and travelled with Mary Hickey, Laurence Hickey's sister, and that Catherine was born in Limerick, Ireland, and maybe the family I have been researching isn't her family at all, I am just so confused, and contacted ancestors of Catherine and Laurence about this information, the information apparently came from the immediate family, and on Catherine's headstone it states that she was born in 1833.

I do agree with you though that old records aren't always accurate, so I guess back to the drawing board.

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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 November 11 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Thelly

I think that the key to this is the marriage certificate, once you have that you should be able to go forward with Catherine, I have seen another family that she could belong too, can you give me a list of all her children and there dates of birth, to see if there are any similarities with the names.

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 November 11 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Catherine's children were - Patrick 1856-1930, David 1857-1858, Daniel 1859-1877, Mary Honora (my g-grandmother) Catherine 1865-1948, Laurence 1868-1914, Richard 1871-1896.

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Thelly