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Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« on: Friday 04 November 11 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hello Listers,

Any help much appreciated with post-transportation BDM information for the following:

(i):   DUDLICK, Henry, born Spitalfields, London, c1829, Father John
Mother Elizabeth, arrived Williamstown 25/01/1848 aboard the "Marion".

(ii):  TREVILLIAN, Edward, born Poole, Dorset, 0512/1828, Father Job, Mother Ann, arrived Williamstown 04/05/1847 aboard the "Thomas Arbuthnot".

I have searched TROVE, IGI, firstfamilies2001 and on-line BDM Indexes but no success.

Thank you in anticipation,

BAC3


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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 November 11 20:14 GMT (UK) »
http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/park8.html
This has all the details correct except for the age???

It says:

Thomas Arbuthnot - arrived in VIC in 1847   
The 621 ton ship 'Thomas Arbuthnot' was under the command of Captain John Thomson and was said to have begun her voyage at Portsmouth/Portland on January 10, 1847. She then travelled to the Isle of Wight where she took on 89 Parkhurst boys. She left there on January 11, 1847 and set out for the Port Phillip Settlement (Victoria).

Trevillian     Edward              7y    9  Trial place  Dorchester                  28 06 1842   stealing a chain                       Retrained as a tailor; refer -  Ref HO 11/15 p144

May just be a coincidence.

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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 November 11 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Same for a Henry Dudlick:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/park10.html

Marion - arrived in VIC in 1848   SOURCES
The 684 ton ship 'Marion' sailed under the command of Captain Charles McKerlie. She was said to have put in to the Isle of Wight on September 17, 1847 where she took on 126 Parkhurst boys. She is said to have finally set out from London on September 29 on her way to the Port Phillip Settlement (Victoria) after stopping in Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) on the way.

The 'Marion' was said to have arrived in Victoria on January 25, 1848 and discharged her Parkhurst boys in Williamstown
Dudlick        Henry              10y   17  Trial Place  Sandwich  04 04 1844   stealing                               aka [DUDLECK]; refer - 'HO 11/15 p216'

The matching records for both are:
http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/trevillian/edward/15170
http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/dudlick/henry

hope I'm not going down a false trail here......
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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 November 11 21:03 GMT (UK) »
Pastmagic,

Thank you for all your efforts putting these details together but, as you remark, you "are going down a false trail" because this is the pre-transportation information.   My major problem is tracing these "Exiles" after they disembarked at Williamstown, Port Phillip.

I had thought with such unusual names I could find some hints through TROVE especially, but sadly I have met that old brick wall.....they just seem to vanish!!

For the moment my thanks once again,

BAC3


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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 November 11 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Edward T born  0512/1828,  arrived Williamstown 04/05/1847 - that would make him 19, but the record says  7y    9 months, that was what I was wondering about. Makes looking for records confusing if we don't know the correct age.

I see from your earlier posts you are researching the fate of all the Parkhurst  "Convict" boys after they arrived, What I was wondering was the correct date of birth, for BMD's but in any case as you rightly say they don't pop up in any of the usual places.

For anyone else interested, I found this site very engaging, and got totally sidetracked:
http://tasmanianphotographer.blogspot.com/2007/04/parkhurst-boys-on-board-fairlie-1852.html
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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 November 11 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Pastmagic,

The 7y (years) stated for Edward TREVILLIAN is the term of transportation and the age shown as 9 is incorrect, probably should have been transcribed as 19, the age he was on arrival.   

For now,

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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 November 11 01:51 GMT (UK) »
I too had an exile in my  research and found nothing about him in the 7 years between his arrival and his marriage.

But while researching other convicts I discovered that many altered their names:
Vickers / Bickers
Godwin / Goodwin
Beechy / Beechey / Beachy /Beachey / Beech / Beach
Osbourne /Osborne / Osborn

Have you checked Trevallian  or Pudlick /Publick as possible variations.

Wild card searches eg T*v*n  or *udli*  can be useful as we often tend to get fixed on one spelling and names were recorded usually as they were heard and written phonetically a source of much confusion at times.

GOod luck

Robyn

The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 November 11 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Robyn,

"Got the teeshirt" I'm afraid with absolutely no luck.....I even tried the archives for RootWeb, the Australia (1788-1868) companion website, and TROVE, using the same approach with the same result.
Frustratingly for DUDLICK I unearthed a partial Ancestry Family Tree, made contact and sent a copy of the details I had retrieved.  No reply, no thank you......!!!

I had thought the unusualness of the names would have made research that much easier, especially with TROVE expanding everyday, so that was disappointing.   Ah well, the pending tray grows daily fuller.

Take care,

Tony

PS:  I remember William OSBORNE quite well

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Re: Convict "Exiles" to Port Phillip
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 November 11 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I thought researching Emms would be easy but it is not so. Most of the Emms in Australian records pertain to two  other families  with this name not connected at all to the one I am researching.
 
Unusual names can prove frustratingly difficult to trace. Have you looked at NewZealand reecords yet? (Jst an outside of teh box idea)

good luck

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany