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Morgan and John
« on: Wednesday 12 October 11 08:08 BST (UK) »
Good morning wonderful people
Help needed once again please:)

Am looking for anything of my Great Grandparents on mothers side.  My Grandmother was called Magwen Morgan and she was born 13 Jan 1920.  Her Dad was called John Morgan and her Mother was Hannah John. 

following siblings of Magwen:
brothers Morian, 1911 – 1967
Illtyd - 1913 – 1980
and a sister Ceinwen morgan - 1916 – 1946

I do know they were a St Nicholas family and moved at some point to Tremaenir, Solva. By the time Illtyd married both his parents were dead. ~So they were dead by the time my Grandmother was married in 1942.  Illtyd and Eunice farmed Tremaenir until the mid fifties when they moved to Rosepool, Roch.  Magwen moved to Milford Haven and married my Grandfather.

The family all seemed to die very young, its a tragedy that noone knows much about them :(
Fairbairn Morgan Palmer Locker

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 09:55 BST (UK) »
Does the mother's name of Hannah John come from Magwen's birth certificate? How do you know her first name?
Rigg/Scholfield - Oldham/Rochdale
Hibbert/Moore - Hayfield/Saddleworth
Garstang/Kirby - Littleborough/Todmorden
Sutcliffe/Hill - Todmorden/Walsden
Young/Stevenson/Newbutt - Ticknall/Kegworth/Nutall/Hucknall/Bulwell
Woolley/Potter, Gaze/Parkins - Kegworth/Normanton-on-Soar/Wheathampstead/Harpenden
Smith/Green - Offley/Flamstead

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 09:58 BST (UK) »
Q2 1898 John Morgan + Hannah John on the same page, Neath v11a pg1055

Maybe Morian wasn't the first child??

So, are they on the 1901 census together??
Rigg/Scholfield - Oldham/Rochdale
Hibbert/Moore - Hayfield/Saddleworth
Garstang/Kirby - Littleborough/Todmorden
Sutcliffe/Hill - Todmorden/Walsden
Young/Stevenson/Newbutt - Ticknall/Kegworth/Nutall/Hucknall/Bulwell
Woolley/Potter, Gaze/Parkins - Kegworth/Normanton-on-Soar/Wheathampstead/Harpenden
Smith/Green - Offley/Flamstead

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:05 BST (UK) »
does Morian show up onthe 1911  census ? or was he born after this date ?
when does Illtyd marry ?

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:07 BST (UK) »
Morian's birth registered - Q3 1911 Haverfordwest 11a 2900
Rigg/Scholfield - Oldham/Rochdale
Hibbert/Moore - Hayfield/Saddleworth
Garstang/Kirby - Littleborough/Todmorden
Sutcliffe/Hill - Todmorden/Walsden
Young/Stevenson/Newbutt - Ticknall/Kegworth/Nutall/Hucknall/Bulwell
Woolley/Potter, Gaze/Parkins - Kegworth/Normanton-on-Soar/Wheathampstead/Harpenden
Smith/Green - Offley/Flamstead

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:11 BST (UK) »
Only Illtyd/Eunice marriage I can find is 1944??
Rigg/Scholfield - Oldham/Rochdale
Hibbert/Moore - Hayfield/Saddleworth
Garstang/Kirby - Littleborough/Todmorden
Sutcliffe/Hill - Todmorden/Walsden
Young/Stevenson/Newbutt - Ticknall/Kegworth/Nutall/Hucknall/Bulwell
Woolley/Potter, Gaze/Parkins - Kegworth/Normanton-on-Soar/Wheathampstead/Harpenden
Smith/Green - Offley/Flamstead

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:13 BST (UK) »
Just saw Morians Birth regsitered as Jul qtr 1911 so after the 1911 census however the registation district is given as Haverfordwest which might narrow down JOhn & Hannahs location on the 1911 census
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:17 BST (UK) »
Only Illtyd/Eunice marriage I can find is 1944??

this is after 1942 which is when Magwen marries
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

UK Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchive

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Re: Morgan and John
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hello all :)

Magwen married William Fairbairn 1943
Illtyd Morgan married Eunice Maya Phillips 1944

Parents were already dead by then and I have been assured by my aunt names were John morgan and Hannah John :)

Thanking you all so much for helping me, i really do appreciate it.  might be a little slow replying as am at work :)
Fairbairn Morgan Palmer Locker