Can anyone date this photograph please???

[Rachels]

Richard

Is the group pic for restoration ?

If yes, then do you want it in colour  ?


Rachel 

[Coolbreeze]

Thank You all for your comments... If ya think of anything please keep ya thoughts and experience coming!!!!... I feel like I am learning so much from you all... Thank You!!!

[chinakay]

Hair up usually indicates marriageable age.

Hair parted in the middle and behind the ears could be anything from about 1865 onwards. But the clothing and backing are very indicative of early-mid 1870s in the group photo, and the single portrait sleeves are quite unique to the late 1890s.

Cheers,
China

[Coolbreeze]

It was mentioned in a previous post that the lady on the left could be the same as the picture I added of the lady I know of... She being Maria Louisa Alecock (Maria Louisa Nunn - Married John Frederick Nunn 21st Jul 1867) She was born 01 Jun 1848 and died in 14 Oct 1927... So, if this is her in the photo and it was taken around 1865/75 then this would make her between 17 and 27 years of age... Which tally's up... So, the young girl with the footstall/watch etc would be her daughter - from the census her first daughter was born on 13 Jan 1868 also illegitimate... So, If the picture was taken during the 1870's this too tally's up!!!.. I cannot see anything regarding disability etc in any of the census returns for this line... I have attached one more photo of the lady we know of Marria louisa even later in life which may help more!!!... Another thing that makes no sense to me is that the picture was marked on the back naming Bradford... The whole family scrapbook is full of family member born in the villages of Euston, Barnham, Suffolk and Thetford, Norfolk... All three places are within a mile or two of each other... Was is possible to have a photo done from a studio mentioned miles away (like Bradford) in them days???...

[Bilge]

Emil Vieler served his apprenticeship as a photographer in a Bradford studio run by a German-born photographer named Albert Sachs (born c1842, Berlin).

http://www.photohistory-sussex.co.uk/BexhillVieler.htm

[chinakay]

This last photo is early 1890s...1892 or 3...before the huge leg-o-mutton sleeving came into fashion in 1893.

If the lady is up-to-date, and no lady would be caught dead having her photo taken in anything but the latest style if she could help it, this photo falls into a very narrow date range. The "kickup" on the shoulder seams is too large to be any earlier, but the sleeves are not puffy enough farther down to be any later.

However, keep in mind that Victorian families exchanged photos with friends as well as relatives, so any photo in a collection may not be family at all.

Cheers,
China

[Rachels]

It was mentioned in a previous post that the lady on the left could be the same as the picture I added of the lady I know of... She being Maria Louisa Alecock (Maria Louisa Nunn - Married John Frederick Nunn 21st Jul 1867) She was born 01 Jun 1848 and died in 14 Oct 1927... So, if this is her in the photo and it was taken around 1865/75 then this would make her between 17 and 27 years of age... Which tally's up... So, the young girl with the footstall/watch etc would be her daughter - from the census her first daughter was born on 13 Jan 1868 also illegitimate... So, If the picture was taken during the 1870's this too tally's up!!!.. I cannot see anything regarding disability etc in any of the census returns for this line... I have attached one more photo of the lady we know of Marria louisa even later in life which may help more!!!... Another thing that makes no sense to me is that the picture was marked on the back naming Bradford... The whole family scrapbook is full of family member born in the villages of Euston, Barnham, Suffolk and Thetford, Norfolk... All three places are within a mile or two of each other... Was is possible to have a photo done from a studio mentioned miles away (like Bradford) in them days???...

Your 2nd photo of Maria /Louisa reminds me of one I have of a gt gran which was taken in abt 1893

At the moment we don't think the woman in the group pic is Maria/Louisa.

  China I was typing as you posted !


A quick observation which may or may not be significant is that in neither of your pics of Maria/Louisa is she wearing earrings.
The woman in the group pic has an earring dangling from her right earlobe

[chinakay]

And I was adding to my post as you posted, Rach

[Seoras]

Hi George 

Hi Rachel.not ignoring,just busy busy today