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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 03 November 11 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Mind you he can't have died in Cardiff if he arrived in NY a month later.

I don't think it says he died in Cardiff - I think that's where he signed on. The heading of the relevant column is 'When and where signed on'.
The next column is 'Sickness' and like Margp I think it says 'Pneumonia (died)'.
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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 November 11 16:16 GMT (UK) »
 Ellis Island  - I was directed to different manifesto sheets each time which was just unusual.
0903 is the American Consular service, Cardiff  sheet 13th December 1918

0905 is the Aliens employed as Crew members January 1919 - from the port of Fowey which is presumably where they left from.

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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 03 November 11 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Here is an extract of the record

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Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
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Tudor. Radnorshire
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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 03 November 11 16:25 GMT (UK) »
The crew list his name is on is dated 13th December 1918 and is the one submitted to the American Consulate in Cardiff - presumably before they set sail for the USA.
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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 03 November 11 16:38 GMT (UK) »
I interpret the record Margp found as reading that he died in hospital in New York.

On the New York Immigration page of the record it says the Sierra Morena arrived on 28th January 1919 with a crew of 28 - of which 6 deserted, one was discharged and one was left in hospital (and subsequently died - Roland).

This would reduce the crew to 20; the record then shows that 10 more were signed on in New York making the crew up to 30, ready for the next journey to Gibraltar in the beginning of April.

So it looks like poor old Roland only just made it to the USA  :(
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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 03 November 11 17:41 GMT (UK) »
I think that 3rd Officer would fit with the photo of him in the MN he hasnt any medal entitlement as war had ended

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« Reply #33 on: Thursday 03 November 11 18:05 GMT (UK) »
How very sad is this - thinking it was all over and then this to happen. His poor family.
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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #34 on: Friday 04 November 11 08:54 GMT (UK) »
There’s an obituary notice in the New York Times, February 8, 1919.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9804E5DF1139E13ABC4053DFB4668382609EDE&scp=1&sq=%22roland+teasdale%22&st=p

TEASDALE.—Feb. 7. Roland Teasdale, aged 19. Services Stephen Merritt, Harlem chapel, 304 West 126th St., Saturday, 1:30.

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Re: Killed in France 1916 - Unable to find
« Reply #35 on: Friday 04 November 11 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so very much for all your work.
I now have a clearer picture .
Roland's elder brother Frederick William was killed in France on 24 Jul 1917.
Roland died aged 19 of pneumonia
His cousin Jane Ann Broome, my father's sister died in Jun 1918 we think perhaps of influenza and was buried in her wedding dress.
Jane Ann's brother Charles Henry was killed in France 28 Jul 1918
Another of her  brothers Thomas Edward Broome died of a lung complaint aged 42
My father Roland Broome died also of a lung complaint aged 50

Quite a tragic story
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