Jones/Roberts Family - Llangollen

[Gadget]

Hi Heather

Are you sure of Charles's middle name? 

I've found this marriage, which is about the only one that seems to crop up at the approx correct time:

Dec q 1895, Godstone, Surrey v 2a p 358

Charles Henry Chandler and Winnifred Jonis or Jouis  are on the same page. Both Jouis and Jonis are recorded in the index.

you did say:

She married my Great Great Grandfather Charles James Chandler in about 1895 in Wales or England

gnu

[Gadget]

I'm also wondering about the 1901 entry. Marie Winifred was born Dec q, 1899, West Derby (a part of Liverpool), so she should show in the 1901 census. So far, I've not found her in England or Wales - even a search on Chandler without a first name b.1900 +/- 2 years , doesn't bring anyone up that looks like her.

I'm now pretty sure that the Jessie W Chandler with Winifred on the 1901 is your Marie but the enumerator got the age wrong from the original schedule - instead of 1 he interpreted it as 7. I have checked the page and it is written as 7 but these mistakes did happen. The Jessie, I'm not sure of - maybe it was a pet name or, again, the handwriting was so poor that the  Marie was mistaken for Jessie.

As an example of the Marie/Jessie confusion, I've just written Marie with a loopy M, as they used to do, and it could be interpreted as Jessie, maybe - see attached.


gnu

[HGauthier]

Hi Gnu,

I had for some time had my research showing as Charles Henry Chandler.  My Grandmother however showed me a document that showed him as Charles James Chandler.  I can't for the life of me figure out if this is a legal document or not, I will have to follow up on that...  Your take on the census for Winnifred Jones could be accurate.  I think they could have called her Winnie... and yes, I could see how perhaps a 1 could be intrepreted for a 7.  Interesting.  I suppose when you look at these things for long enough you see common errors.  You're 'signature' looks like it could read either way as well. 

Some time ago I found the same marriage for Chandler and Jouis that you're speaking of, it was the closest thing I could find... I really have to figure out where Charles James came from...

Thanks Gnu!

[Gene Genius]

I have tried to post an excerpt from a local paper on here but the file is too large.

It is from Dec 1866 and speaks of a fire at Eirianallt Fawr a farm in the occupation of Mr J Roberts.

I can forward it to you if you supply me with an email address.

[cubooh]

Is the Eirianallt mentioned  in Berwyn Llangollen? As I live there now and I am trying to find info and pictures about the house.

[HGauthier]

Hi Gene Genius, very interested in seeing that article.

My email is (*)

Thanks!

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[cubooh]

I have e mailed you the clip Heather.

[HGauthier]

Thank YOU!! Very cool!  I'm telling you though, this family makes me crazy! lol...

[cubooh]

I know that feeling. Did your family actually live at Eirianallt in Llangollen?