No help on Europe forum, can someone help in the UK.

[LEP1950]

It's me again!! I was just going to close down the computer when I made another find. I found the Kiel address book for 1934.

It lists Karl Hoepner as a labourer (Arbeiter) living on the first floor of Rathausstraße 1

Link: http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index.php?title=Datei%3AKiel-AB-1934.djvu&page=179

and

Bruno Meyer, Kupferschmied (coppersmith), living in Iltisstraße 6, on the ground floor.

http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index.php?title=Datei%3AKiel-AB-1934.djvu&page=281



So, I think Karl was Anny's father and the young people moved out of the parental home, probably as their family got bigger.

So, no more for tonight!! (Promise)

LEP 1950

[LEP1950]

P.S. 1940 addresss book Kiel:

Karl Hoepner is an invalid living in the Trauensteinstraße 12 (forgot to note the page number. Sorry! Otherwise same source as below)

Bruno Meyer, coppersmith, Trauensteinstraße 12, ground floor.

http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/w/index.php?title=Datei%3AKiel-AB-1940.djvu&page=326

So, Karl-Friedrich Hoepner is definitely Anny's father, John!!

Linda

[johnabbots1]

That is Fantastic, Not only have you found Bruno, but Anny's Father. I must admit looking at the old German writing "sutterlin"? i would never have found any of these records and links. Going to try to contact the Record offices tonight. Will try by email first, if not I will give them a call. Hope they speak English. LEP1950, no wonder I could not find Rathausstrasse on the maps! I will also try the arienausweis address.
I am going to request Bruno Meyers (1905)/Anny's Birth cert (?), will try the marriage between Bruno and Anny (?), these I guess maybe available at the Standesamt? Carinthiangirl I will try the link contacting a person and see how I get on..
Really cant wait for the weekend to get my teeth into all the info sent by you guys, thanks again LEP1950, APwright and Carinthiangirl. The Impfgesetz was to big to post on this site LEP, I dont have a scanner, any chance I could email this to you. I have quite an extensive UK tree on Ancestry.co.uk, could I send it through that if you are a member? INC. Marriage to My Grandfather and quite a small picture of Bruno (we think).

[LEP1950]

Hi John,

Yes, I am a member of ancestry, although I don't have a tree on there, only one on  GenesReunited.co.uk. I really think I ought to do one, but I'm so lazy about writing things up. I like finding out more!
Anyway, I've written to you via ancestry.
In the 1934 Kiel address book, there was only one Bruno Meyer, coppersmith, but in the 1940 address book there are two,  the other one is a truck driver (Kraftw.führer, Hohenzollernweg 69). This could be just coincidence, but I wondered whether this was Bruno's son (??). On the other hand, if Bruno was born in 1905, wouldn't his son have been too young to be a lorry driver in 1940, only about 17 at the most? Then again, a lot of young men were away as soldiers and so perhaps this was possible. But perhaps this Bruno is Bruno the coppersmith's nephew? All speculation, I know, but sometimes speculation leads you to new finds.
Meyer is unfortunately a very common name. There were quite a lot of them with various spellings in Kiel, quite a few in the Iltisstraße. There were also two other coppersmiths called Meyer (Gustav and Heinrich) in either the 1934 or 1940 address book that I wondered about.  But nothing concrete.

So, hope you are lucky with your research in the Standesamt/Stadtarchiv.

LEP 1950

[johnabbots1]

Hi all,
Please see attached message sent to me from the Standesamt, could I ask for help in translating this reply,many thanks,

Sehr geehrter Herr Abots,

damit wir Ihre Anfrage überhaupt weiter bearbeiten können, benötigen wir als Legitimation eine Kopie Ihres Ausweises (eingescannt als Mailanhang).

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Maren Hannemann

Maren Hannemann

Landeshauptstadt Kiel

Bürger- und Ordnungsamt

-Standesamt-

10.8.1U

21103 Kiel, Fleethörn 26

Zimmer 211

Tel.: (0431) 901-2367

Fax: (0431) 901-742367

[Berlin-Bob]

Dear Mr Abbot,

We need a copy of your passport (scanned as e-mail attachment) - for legitimation - before we can process your request further/ at all.

Kind Regards,
etc

It's the usual procedure: some form of identification is needed
(and in Germany the envelope your last electricity bill came in doesn't do the trick !)

regards,
Bob

[johnabbots1]

Thanks Berlin Bob, shame I havent got a scanner, have to wait until next week. Thanks again.

[LEP1950]

Hi John,

have just switched on my computer. I see Berlin Bob has already helped with the translation. But did you write to them in German? Most civil servants in Germany would be capable of asking you in English to send a copy of your passport. Just wondered...

LEP 1950

[johnabbots1]

Hi,
I wrote my request in English, I did explain that my German is pretty basic.. I was a bit surprised too.
John