Harvey and Staffell , Rye

[marinerclark]

MY John's mother was Martha  Daniel.  Read PM  Thanks so much.  Except for the PCC wills very hard to get the Archdeanery ones.    LizR

[Hampshire Lass]

Sorry about that..........it won't be your Will in that case...... it was just a thought, to help you a little   

Regards HL

[marinerclark]

I really appreciate it.  John Clark is not a great name to research.  Especially that far back

[angela2b]

Interested in finding out more about the shipbuilders Harvey & Staffell

Viv,
I just found this thread today, and thought I would hasten to tell you that - because of my Harvey interest - I bought a booklet "Rye Memories, No 20, Rye Shipping" by Richard Horner, and published by a local-history group.

To paraphrase a bit:
Staffel and Harvey, both with first names JOHN. The yard began in 1762 as the boatyard of John Stoffel senior [name changed to Staffel in 1798].

Nicholas Harvey (son of John H, who d 1784) acquired a sail loft in 1829 from George Staffell, who died in that year.  So George Staffell was a sailmaker until that date.  [Today the sailmaking premises houses the Rye Visitor Centre!]


Marinerclark,
this same booklet has quite a lot about the Clark(e)s.
John Clark(e) - a ship and boatbuilder, set up in 1753 below the Ypres Tower - was the grandfather of Thomas Staffell Clark, boatbuilder and bargebuilder of Rye.
Also the great grandfather of William Evans Clark.
John Clark married into the Staffell family.
Samuel Clark managed the boatbuilding yard in 1867.
Thomas Staffell Clark was b 1798; nephew of John STaffell and grandson of Thomas Clark, and d 5 Dec 1883.  He had a yard near Strand Quay.
william Evans Clark (c1829-1909), son of the above Thomas, had a yard on the W side of Winchelsea Rd in 1869.

It looks as if Thomas Staffell Clark married Margaret Winser.
They had a daughter Sarah Winser Clark, who m (1) James William Smith (drowned in Rye Bay) and then (2) (?Capt) George Bayley.

Does all this make any sense to you?  I must admit, I have just tried to draw up a rough tree, and can't quite make it fit.  If you PM me an email address, I'll scan some of the pages for you.

Angela

[iconoclast2]

It is many years since I researched the Rye Harveys in the original registers, while dragging my heavy card index around. I am delighted to see that there are others who have become interested. These are my notes on John Harvey of the shipbuilders Harvey and Staffell.

[marinerclark]

That was wonderful.  How I would love to dig into all those records.   I have found on Ancestry a large family born to John Clark and Mary in the 1720's.  Philip was born 1730.  He left a will filed with the Canterbury court in 1806.  His messuage was leased to a Paine and located on the Strand by the gate.  Philip and Thomas Clark were crew on the Swallow, privateer, in 1757.  Prize Notice in the London Gazette.  The captain was Philip Lilborne.  Investors read like a Who's Who of Rye.  The one notice is all I have found from 6000 miles away.  Maybe the ship in 1760 was to honor the Swallow which set them up with capital, though Swallow was a common name.
      Mary Machin Staffell married Philip Clark, son of the Philip above, in 1788.  He was a mate on the Stag, a cutter.    Would love to know more about John Clark.  Mary Vousden's mother was a Lilbourne.
      Didn't dig files but do have dates.    thanks so much for posting.   LizR

[angela2b]

Hi Ken,
Thanks so much for your private message.  I have tried to reply via email, to send you a family tree, but for some reason it does not want to leave my Outbox.  I wonder if there is an error in your email address - though it looks pretty simple to me.  Would you like to message me again with it?

I am the 5x great granddaughter of John Harvey who died in Menorca
via
John's son Nicholas Harvey
His son Richard Nelson Harvey
His son Nicholas William Harvey
His son, and my great grandfather Nicholas Charles Harvey

Angela

[Summercloud]

Thanks Ken for posting such a fantastic record of the Harvey family.  I've enjoyed discovering more about the Harvey and Clark family connection to shipbuilding in Rye. I am descended from Nicholas Harvey's(b.1708)  marriage to Elizabeth Cooper, their son Nicholas Harvey(b.C1752), his son Lester Harvey(b.C1784, a Sailmaker),his son Stephen Stocks Harvey(b. C1815) and his son Robert Surtees Harvey (b.1841- my great, great grandfather).

Recently, I discovered the family association with the Battle Gunpowder Mills.  The following site, gives a wonderful account of the history of the Mills and you will find Lester Harvey (b.1730) and some of his descendants mentioned.  Four of his children are included in his will, proved on the 15th April 1801, Mary (the wife of Rev. Thomas Fuller of Heathfield), Jane (the wife of William Holtham), Hannah Harvey (unmarried) and William Gillmore Harvey.

http://www.battle-abbey.co.uk/_New%20Site/_gunpowder.html

Regards,
Viv.

[HelenNZ]

Hi everyone posting on here.  Please forgive my inexperience, I haven't posted on Rootschat before.

I have read this post with excitement and gratitude as I am researching my (Gunpowder) Harvey's from Battle.  I am the 7x Great Grandaughter of Nicholas Harvey (born 1708 in Rye).  My 5x Great Grandfather, William Gilmore Harvey of Powdermill House, Battle, was the grandson of Nicholas Harvey.

Does anyone have any new information on the Rye Shipbuilding Harvey's or on the 'Battle' Harvey's?

I would love to correspond but I'm not sure if I can post my email address here.  I have emailed Ken in Turkey but didn't receive a reply.  I will keep an eye on this and hope to hear from someone.

regards

Helen (NZ)