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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 October 11 21:16 BST (UK) »
I've been looking at the pages of and on for the last hour and think it starts with a T or an I (or even an H) but I don't think it says Idiot.  They were both labourers and married.

Have enlarged it a bit.

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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 October 11 21:17 BST (UK) »
I had a look at some of the folllowing pages in that census and whilst I can't help with what it does say, it doesn't say dumb as there is a very clear 'dumb' in that column  a few pages further on.
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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 28 October 11 22:12 BST (UK) »
I'm not convinced that the word "Idiot" actually is written!

I have attached a snippet of the census form.

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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 28 October 11 22:24 BST (UK) »
Is it part of the birthplace? It looks to me that the 2 times it is used the birthplace is the same. Mind you, I am only going by what I can see on this thread.
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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 October 11 22:25 BST (UK) »
I have often wondered if there was a difference in terminology between "idiot" and "imbecile". The other term I have seen used in census records is "feeble-minded".
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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 October 11 01:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: pinefamily on Friday 28 October 11 22:24 BST (UK)
Is it part of the birthplace? It looks to me that the 2 times it is used the birthplace is the same. Mind you, I am only going by what I can see on this thread.
'item' (classical Latin) is often used to mean 'the same' (modern 'ditto'); would this make sense?
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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 October 11 01:40 BST (UK) »
You mean idem.
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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 October 11 02:15 BST (UK) »
Quote from: KGarrad on Friday 28 October 11 22:12 BST (UK)
I'm not convinced that the word "Idiot" actually is written!

I have attached a snippet of the census form.



I just did a google on 'upwell isle' and it came up with Upwell and Outwell both of the county of Cambridge and the Isle of Ely.

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Sorry, I should have said that the entry looked like 'Ile' and was part of the placename.

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Re: What does IDIOT really mean?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 29 October 11 06:15 BST (UK) »
Local knowledge, lol.
I'm with Colin. It almost definitely looks like Isle.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.
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