Charlotte Binder / Lord Beresford help please

[vickyhouse2002]

Hi Alverley Historian,
A friend of mine has found a file that you might be interested in.
So PM me and I will forward it to you.
It will answer your question.
Regards
Vicky

[dianahis]

Re Rupert Seymour Cecil Beresford - left England 1947 with third wife Joan.  Three children all now in UK.  WHat links to family?

[dianahis]

Rupert Seymour Cecil Beresford mother was a Binder - known as Sue.  Certainly, unsure about her but he was born in London with brother Claude.  Only know the BIdners were from Shropshire.  She did not have hte demeanour of a cobbler's daughter and was quite haughty. SHe lived in Willesdon in Lodnon until her death in late 1900s.  She was many years younger than her husband. GLad for details.

[alveleyhistorian]

Re Rupert Seymour Cecil Beresford - left England 1947 with third wife Joan.  Three children all now in UK.  WHat links to family?

My step-sister is the blood relative. She is now in her mid-eighties, so asked me to help her trace the history of Cissie Beresford ( nee Binder) and family
Cissie's real name was Fanny Gertrude Binder, and she was born in 1885, daughter of Thomas and Harriet Binder.
She married Rupert Beresford in 1929. Cissie and Rupert had two sons - * & * .
Hope this is a match..please get in touch

[dianahis]

Some of the dates eem a bit odd.  Rupert and Claud were born in 1907 ish but not married unitl 1929.  Odd goings on.  Fanny Gertrude is correct but she was known as Sue.  Very interested in the BInder side of things as have very little knowledge of that side.  Have no detials of Rupert Seymour Cecil's first two wives but he left England in 1947 with Joan and had three children in Kenya.  He died out in Kenya a well respected member of hte Kenyan business community.  His mother visted in Kenya but little know of her life after Rupert Beresford died (he was a lot older than her) apart from the knowledge that she lived in Willesden London until her death.  WOuld be glad to know of her family.

[aghadowey]

Some of the dates eem a bit odd.  Rupert and Claud were born in 1907 ish but not married unitl 1929.  Odd goings on. 

If born c1907 and married in 1929 would be aged about 22 years which seems perfectly possible.

[dianahis]

Ok.  ALl these Ruperts get muddled.  So far we have Rupert Beresford marrying Fanny Gertrude (Sue) BInder (known as Sue) then having Rupert and Claude in 1907 and 1909 ish.  Rupert Seymour Cecil marrying three wives - firstly in 1929, then again, then to JOan round about 1947 ish.  Rupert Beresford died in late 1940s/early 1950s.  Rupert Seymour Cecil died in 1986.  Joan is still going strong at * having remarried to a *.  Rupert Seymour Cecil and Joan had three children (/Sue's grandchildren) *.  All three children live in UK - * is married with no children, * married with two children and * has two children.   Why was there no contact with the BInder family as Rupert Seymour Cecil and  Joan's family tree very lopsided with little on the Beresford or BInder side.  Rupert Beresford (SUe's husband) apparently was an only child whose mother died in childbirth - the father was distraught and threw himself down the stairs and died.  NOt sure of his background but Rupert Beresford (the son) was brought up by cousins (linked with the Lord Beresfords).  Need more work done on the Beresford cousins, etc. and the Binders.

* details of living people removed in accordance with Rootschat policy

[alveleyhistorian]

Thank you for your kindess and help..I will send you a private message..

[Cress]

As per previous contact with Alvelyhistorian, I'm a relative of Rupert through his brother Claude. Drop me a line?