Cecil Howard DUFFY (Born 1888)

[Lady Di]

Just to clarify something ...

In 1942 ER Cecil Duffy is still recorded as living in Sutherland Street Coburg with his wife. He's been consistently listed as a "Clerk" and has lived at this address, with his wife Amy, since 1931 (according to the ER's)

There is ANOTHER guy listed as well on the 1942 ER. His name is Cecil Jack Duffy and he's in Moreland Road Brunswick West. This guy is a "Traveller".

I see that the Sutherland Street address was given on Cecil's Draft Card for WW1 as his current address.

Is it possible that there are actually two guys with similar names as the second name "Howard" isn't listed on any pre WW11 Electoral Rolls?

Di

[avm228]

There is ANOTHER guy listed as well on the 1942 ER. His name is Cecil Jack Duffy and he's in Moreland Road Brunswick West. This guy is a "Traveller".

The address "72 Moreland Rd, W Bruns" is annotated in manuscript at the top of the 1951 letter about CHD's whereabouts (reply #5).  So perhaps Cecil Jack Duffy was his alias?

[markdrogers99]

AVM228 and Lady Di - I believe 'Cecil Jack Duffy' to be his alias. I came to the same conclusion as on his army record he uses the '72 Moreland Rd, W Bruns' address though on the same papers in 1939 he said his wife was a 'R Duffy'.

Am still at a lose as to why there is no records of his parents, (George) Samuel Duffy and Annie Duffy (nee Bray). 

[cando]

So he is born 1888 on this index

Royal Irish Constabulary
DUFFY , Cecil
Birth    1888  Australia
Film # 2093  Page#201  1920

When Cecil DUFFY [no 2nd given name] applied for his WW1 UK service medals in 1926 his address was 24 Sutherland Street, Coburg, Melbourne, Australia.

Cando

[cando]

Am still at a lose as to why there is no records of his parents, (George) Samuel Duffy and Annie Duffy (nee Bray).

Perhaps they are not his parents' names.

Cando

[judb]

Hi
Congratulations on your public tree on a commercial site - great to see such a well-documented/sourced piece of research.  So often they are unsourced and incorrect.

Just some thoughts........................
His death certificate shows that the informant is an 'authorized agent' so we have no idea who actually gave the information, some of which appears to correspond with other information and some doesn't. Interesting that his wife is named but the section asking for his "issue" states "not any". 

His actual date of death - 15 January 1960, buried at Fawkner, 21 January 1960

Speculation - given his connection with the Irish constabulary later and with the Irish Hussars I wonder if he may have been born in Ireland??

Good luck with trying to get any further with this chap who seems to have been a little economical with the truth at times.    Judith

[cando]

I have searched numerous directories and cannot find any listings for either a George or Samuel DUFFY in the 1888 Postal Directory or the 1911 Directory.  There was a Samuel DUFFY on the Vic bdm indexes however he was married to a Clara and they lived in Carlton.  His death notice names his children and no Cecil amongst them.

The only Stanhope Street in Melbourne metropolitan area is in the suburb of Malvern.

At the end of the first decade in the 20thC whilst Cecil was enlisted, he stated he had turned 23 at his last birthday and was born Melbourne, Australia.

Judith I also wondered if he was born in Ireland

Cando

[wivenhoe]

The image from WW2 record, image 11 of 12, and shown at reply #5 -

is that "unmarried wife" pencilled at the end of the letter
(wife applying for passport)?.

[markdrogers99]

No I believe 'unmarried wife' refers to who he could have listed as living with at time of discharge. His 'real' wife, Amy Duffy (nee Pengelly) was British and from Looe, Cornwall. There are ship records of Amy leaving Australia twice (1951 and 1954) heading back to Britain visiting relatives.

Re Cecil being born in Ireland, I too thought this and searched the Irish records but to no avail.. I've been living in Dublin for past 5yrs.. big coincidence lol

His British army record as mentioned in original post said he was born in Australia and his father Samuel was from address Stanhope St Melbourne.. This was in 1908.

He certainly is a mystery and am starting to think he told a lot of untruths re where he was from and who is parents were!!