Jacob Davies Rhosllanercrugog

[wilcoxon]

And in 1891 they are in Durham, David b Ponkey / Louisa b Ireland .
RG12; Piece: 4074; Folio 21; Page 44

[despair]

While I remember-there is also the issue of Albert being described in 1881 as "brother in law" to John when"brother" might have been expected.Gnu says this could well mean "step brother" as currently understood,implying a second marriage(?).Whatever the case it seems he is deliberately not described as brother.

Roger

[Gadget]

A note of caution here centred around the same confusion re Ireland/Staffs:-
The other party in the 1871 "pairings" for the Rhosymedre marriage is David Phillips and I would say that Louisa Davies(b.Ireland) might marry him.. and he is a brickmaker.... and they move to Lancashire....

1881   3781   107   47


Roger

 

I took this from the parish records film notes that I've had a while, not from the GRO index. Had a look at the other two.  Godfrey Pemberton married a Mary Williams. David Phillips down as a farmer, aged 21.

I think that  Albert's birth cert ought to be obtained to find out what the relationship was.

gnu

[despair]

I think David is from Pant Farm Ruabon as in

1871:   5653  84 11

Roger

[Gadget]

Just been looking at all the other censuses, and it would appear that Louisa was born Ireland on all except the 1871.

I think the Irish registrations started late 1850s  - just checked - 1864



gnu

[despair]

How about this going in the mix!?
Marriage 3/9/1862 St Peter Liverpool

Jacob Davies  father John Davies(as in gnu's quoted 1829 baptism)
Mary Wright   father Edward Wright(as in IGI  1828  Ruabon record)

Could explain the lack of a previous marriage or a second marriage for someone or one amazing coincidence or....

Roger

[Gadget]

Looks interesting, Roger - it would be worth Lolly getting the cert just to check on the occupations and their ages. Why would they have married so late on though 

I'll have a look at Mary Wright against the ones I found the other day.

Added - the most likely baptism of a Mary Wright with a father Edward, is this one:
Ruabon
20 January 1828 Mary d/o Edward Wright (butcher) and Elizabeth of Cefn Mawr

(the IGI one is a no-no submitted entry, Roger, so this confirms)

gnu

[Gadget]

Found an advert in the Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser, Sat March 16 1861

Plas Issa Building Bricks

Jacob Davies respectfully annouces his being Agent for the sale of these Bricks in Rhos and it's neighbourhood.
Rhos March 14 1861

This seems to be a regular advert for a while!

BUT also this in the same paper, Saturday 8 February 1868

Public Notice

I hereby give notice that I, Jacob Davies, Plas yn Clawd, near Ruabon, will not be answerable for any debt or debts contracted by my wife, Mary Davies, after this date.
Signed, Jacob Davies
Feb 7th 1868

Explains the 1871 - they obviously split up

He also appears as an auctioneer in 1870, selling land near Ponkey !

[Gadget]

Interesting - same paper, Sat 22 May 1875

Marriage - 13 May 1875 at St Mary's Flint. Samuel, the fourth son of Mr William Edwards of Ysceifiog to Mary Anne, the second daughter of Mr Jacob Davies, Brick and Tile Works, Flint