Lost Aunt Mary Thomson Turner born 1908

[janeygee]

 

Hi Everyone,,,,

I'm back with another query to find this elusive aunt of whom you all
have kindly helped me with in the past, she emmigrated to NY in 1930
from UK and believe she lived & worked in NJ as a domestic-servant,
she made 3-4 trips back to Scotland in the first 5yrs  info I was given
by you all,,now I have found info on Ancestry which is a good bet it is
her,,also found on Soc/Seg death index info which may be her,so if any
one can help uncover this mystery I will be eternally grateful,,

Status; Mary Thomson Turner;
DOB; 16 Feb 1908
Place; Partick,Glasgow,Scotland,UK
Parents; Daniel Turner & Isabella Wilson Cowieson;

Soc/Seq index says Mary T.Turner died 1995 Cape May,NJ; # issued
Pennsylvania; US Citizenship granted 27 Aug,1941 in Philadelphia
Penn. says Mary age 33yrs. which would be correct with her yr of birth.

Can anyone check the citizenship record and let me know if it gives
any of the details above,and perhaps an address or next of kin,,,

Appreciate all your help as always,,,

Kind regards;

Janey;

[*Sandra*]

Hi Janey,

Mary Turner 5521 Hadfield Street. Philadelphia. PA. Age 33 years.
Date of admission:- 27-8-41  US Dist Court Philadelphia.
Petition No:- 151388


Sandra

[janeygee]

 

 WOW ,,,, thank you so much Sandra for your quick reply,
can I ask just one more favour,, is it possible for me to
obtain a copy of this Petition,,?? and if so , where do I
get it,,???

Do these applications  for citizenship list parents or occupation,
I can understand if Mary later moved back to NJ, we had many
cousins living there and in New York City area,but nobody had
any contact with her for years so the mystery continues.

I put an note on find a grave for a look up at a cemetery in Cape
May,NJ.but no luck so far,so any info is a bonus at this point,,,

Appreciate all your help with this ,,thanks again

Kind regards;

Janey;

[shellyesq]

There is information here about getting naturalization records for the US District Court in Philadelphia:  http://www.archives.gov/midatlantic/public/family-history.html#naturalization

[janeygee]

There is information here about getting naturalization records for the US District Court in Philadelphia:  http://www.archives.gov/midatlantic/public/family-history.html#naturalization

Thank you very much Shellyesq for this info I have emailed them for
details on copies of certificate,,will keep ya posted,,,,

Kind regards;

Janey;

[janeygee]

 

Hi Shellyesq;

Just to let ya know I got the info on the Mary Turner,Philly; sad to say
it was not my lost aunt,,this one wrong parents and born Ireland,,,,
so it's back to the drawing-board so to speak,,,,
Another relative suggested our Mary stayed around the NYCity area
and may have passe away in mid 1980's,,,,

Appreciate your help,,if anyone has ideas I'm open,,thanks

Kind regards;
Janey;

[shellyesq]

Here is the prior thread on Mary, in case anyone wants to take a look:  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,419549.0.html

Typically, in that time frame, there are manifest markings indicating that the person sought naturalization.  I don't see any on Mary's first voyage, so I'm inclined to think she wasn't naturalized unless it was via marriage.

The 1932, 1933, & 1935 passenger lists said Mary was returning to 2 East 91st Street, New York City.

[janeygee]

 

 Bunch of thanks Shellyesq for that little bit of info ie;address,,,
I do know that Aunt Mary travelled back to Scot for a visit in '1933'
joined by my other 'Aunt Jane Thomson' and two other girlfriends
who may have been Scots or Irish, don't know their names,all the
girls were in domestic-service jobs,,the only one I know where is
Aunt Jane,she was in service to the 'Woolf-Family' on West End Ave
Manhattan,from 1930 to 1936 when she left to get married,she
became a citizen in 1947.Family history is there was a 'falling-out'
as Aunt Mary Turner broke off her engagement to Robert Thomson
brother of 'Jane',,,,,Robert was working in NY but sailed back to Scot.
between 1934-36,,he later married 'Nellie Turner' sister of Mary,,,and
Mary was never talked about again,,,,I've always wondered what ever
happened to her,,she stayed in USA but I don't know if she married,,
The mystery continues,,,,

Appreciate all help and ideas,,,

Kind regards;
Janey;



 

[*Sandra*]

Hi Janey,

Just went back over some of those passenger lists again and noted the same address as Shelly did above.  Perhaps you have this information but that address belonged to Marys employer Louise Carnegie. The address 2 East 91st Street at Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, was the Carnegie Mansion.
Here is a picture and some details below -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie,_Andrew,_Mansion

Louise Carnegie (born 1857)  appears on many passenger lists to the UK. I think her full name was Louise Whitfield Carnegie.

Louise Whitfield Carnegie. Died New York 1946.
Father -  John W Whitfield and Mother -  Fannie Davis Whitfield
Spouse - Andrew Carnegie.

Source:- England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976

On Monday June 24 th 1946 at her residence in New York City, Louise Whitfield Carnegie widow of Andrew Carnegie, daughter of the late John W and Fannie davis Whitfield of New York  xxxxxxxx (some text missing here because it was over written with 27-6-1946 - mother of Margaret Carnegie Miller.

There may have been a few connections to Scotland but one was the marriage of  Louise Miller to James Frederick Gordon Thomson  a 41 years old Edinburgh lawyer)  Louise Miller was 18 years old and heiress to part of a $30,000,000 steel fortune of her grandfather Andrew Carnegie. They married at Dornoch. Scotland

Many articles on the Carnegie family on http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
(Just incase you might be interested)

This shows Andrew Carnegie Scottish Connections

http://www.scotcities.com/carnegie/andrew.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/carnegie/gallery/carnegieman.html

Looking at the 1920 census Louise Carnegie (1857) had many staff - butler and servants from Scotland.


Sandra