Holland .... Dutch translation.. Part 2 !!

[mikecharles49]

My ancestor had a son in 1843 with "en van de Chinese vrouw Ong Tok. (erkenning). "
This was in Java, Indonesia.
Were they married?    Was she a "recognised" common law wife? 

THANKS for recent replies.  I do know what the translation is, ie his Chinese woman, or wife, and  that erekenning reads as "recognised", but I wanted the interpretation as to this entry in Java births, ie I suspect they were not married and she was in modern parlance his partner. Just wondered if any Dutch person could confirm this

[Sandymc47]

Hi
My Dutch is a little rusty but vrouw def means wife and she
was from China as Chinese is how they spell it.(erkenning means
to admit)
So I believe she was recognised

regards Sandymc

[davidft]

I put it in an online translator and up game up with

and of the Chinese women CA TOK. (recognition).

[genechaser]

"and the Chinese woman Ong Tok. (recognition)."

[Sandymc47]

Hi having lived in Holland and used to speak Dutch
Vrouw also means wife as well as woman
as in mijn Vrouw means my wife not my woman as such.

regards
Sandymc

[meermin]

Hi
I'm not Dutch but Flemish. "erkenning "  normally means that the father accepts the child to be his and therefore the child gets the father's name, so he or she is ligitimate, even when the couple is not married.

You're welcome. 

[Sandymc47]

Hi
I agree with you meermin.  When I look at it again I think
its because we only have half a sentance which doesnt help
you get the full story. 
I presume there is a name before the sentance starts and
therefore, that would mean that the name (presumably a child)
was recognised as the child of the Chinese wife /woman Ong Tok
and the man involved.

[clayton bradley]

 To "recognise" a child in Dutch law is partway between legitimate and illegitimate. It's something we don't have in England. One of my ancestors, Wouter van de Waal, married a girl called Grietje Berendse about 1815. At their marriage, they said they had 2 children born before marriage, whom they "recognised". The elder of these two children was a boy. His first name is not a van de Waal name or a Berendse name and the baby was registered by Grietje's father. The second child, a girl, was registered by Wouter and has a family name. So the boy was not Wouter's, but the girl was. If you Google Dutch Law and look for this you will find a number of articles. claytonbradley