Getting back to the 17th Century

[Redroger]

A likely relative of mine has produced a tree including the maternal ancestors of my 2XGGF which goes back to around 1300AD, over 200 years before the introduction of parish registers. The family were not aristocrats or anything very grand, just tenant farmers who happened to rent the same farm from the same landlord for over 300 years; and the manorial records happen to have survived. Great you might think, expect that I have failed to confirm the link to my ancestor for over 15 years. I just have this one break in 1776. So a lot of it in the end is simply luck.

[Dave the Walrus]

Hi Everybody,

Thank you very much for the information. I guess, this is where the hard work begins. 

Best wishes,

Dave

[Dave the Walrus]

Hi Nell,

What is the "A2A catalogue of archives"?

Best wishes,


Dave

[Dave the Walrus]

Hi Graham,

You may have seen my postings on the Aberdeenshire site. My ancestors seem to have been seafaring types, initially from Peterhead, moving to Dundee and then to Aberdeen. At present, I am starting with my great grandfather, William Allan, born 17 August, 1823 in Peterhead.

Do you see any connections there?

Best wishes,

Dave

[pinefamily]

"Great you might think, expect that I have failed to confirm the link to my ancestor for over 15 years. I just have this one break in 1776. So a lot of it in the end is simply luck."

I'm hearing you Roger! There is a very well-researched book on my family from 1917, detailing various branches of the family. Even this fellow, who had access to documents that no longer exist, could not prove a link with my line. My branch is described as "no link having been proven". If only there had been a paper trail.....
I guess I am stuck with John Pyne in 1530. And to think he lived about 3 or 4 parishes away from the manor the family first held in 1154!                           

[Redroger]

Pinefamily, I  have taken a Y chromosome DNA test, so far without success in linking my male side of the family. After that length of time now 225 years there is no test known to me which would like me to my father's maternal ancestry, certainly not that far back. If it is the male side, then a Y DNA test is the only possibility I know of.

[Pejic]

IPM's are also a good source of relationships, and there seem to be a goodly number of learned tomes from the 1850 to 1880 period in England which appear to be sourced from early legal documents by Solicitors from the Inns of Court in London.  The main thing is to luck into a well researched and documented family tree, which you have more chance of doing, the more lines you follow up.

It took me over 50 years to eventually find an end (and then it was my grandson's, not mine) with such a possible link, but then I went from 1740 to 241 in 2 days (thank you Mr Poindexter), I've just documented it as a theory for anyone to confirm/ refute as the fancy takes them in the future - I've not enough time left to do so

You also have to bear in mind the sad fact that 10% of children ar not the biological offspring of the officially documented father, so after a few generations, it is a matter of chance whose ancestors you are tracing, so you have to be doing it for the fun (and education) of the research. I have learnt more history by reading some of the books referred to than I ver did in school.

[Redroger]

You also have to bear in mind the sad fact that 10% of children ar not the biological offspring of the officially documented father, so after a few generations, it is a matter of chance whose ancestors you are tracing, so you have to be doing it for the fun (and education) of the research. I have learnt more history by reading some of the books referred to than I ver did in school.

Seems to fit my experience of the Y chromosome test, so far 11 men including myself have taken it, and we have 11 different lines!

[johnxyz]

I don't think anyone has answered Dave's question from yesterday re A2A.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ contains enough to explain itself.