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Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« on: Thursday 20 October 11 17:00 BST (UK) »
Hi, I realise that im shocked about something that must have been an everyday occurrence ...
However i have had many branches of my family where they have lost a few children, But i have recently found a new branch where the poor family lost 5 of their 7 children before their first birthday..

I have had a look on London Lives and they did live in a impoverished area, They were Robert & Jane Fleetwood, they married in Oct 1713 At All Hallows The great London, , I cant make out which parish Jane Perry (wife) was from.. But i know Robert was from St Andrew Undershaft.

All of their children were christened at St Andrews Undershaft, London And they seemed to name their children the same name which is a bit confusing they had
2 Charles Fleetwoods, and 2 Robert Fleetwoods!.. All died sadly... They all lived and died between 1714 - 1722.. John Fleetwood 1720 (my 6 X Great grandad) Survived thankfully!

I have looked and i cant find a record of their street address...

Just thought it was shocking....

ELLMER - Yorkshire to Strood, Kent
ROGERS - Rochester, Kent
CARDER - Rye to Rochester, Kent
KEMP - Hawkhurst - Rochester, Kent
THOMAS - Chatham, Kent
RHODES - Rye
WOOLLEY - Milton to Rochester
STANLEY - Whitechapel
LOUGHAN - Ireland
BURNET - Essex
SWEATMAN - Kent
BECK - Chatham
BLACK - Rochester
WICKER - Strood
KING - Middlesex - Strood
CROUCH - Headcorn
HICKMOTT - Lamberhurst
BATES - Strood
WELFARE - Sussex - Strood

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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 October 11 20:44 BST (UK) »
Hello, I've had this too, and in regard to the name thing, it was common practice to name a child after one who had died, I had 3 Mary's before the one who actually lived in one family!
It could have been a birth defect? For example, a relative of mine and her husbands blood types don't match, (O+ and AB- I think) so her body treats a baby from her husband as a 'parasite'. It's very difficult to carry to term, and then when the baby is born it will 99% of the time need a blood transfusion at birth. This may have happened to them, and of course there would not have been the medical knowledge to save the poor little babies.
Or perhaps it was just a generally disease filled area. The rates of infant mortality were very high in those days weren't they :s
Still, it probably means they loved your John all the more :)
Jenny
Vanderkist; London and beyond!
Doe; Suffolk
Hunt; Surrey, London
Reeves; Croydon, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire
Porrett: England, Yorkshire, London
Ward; Croydon, Wiltshire
Batchelor; Croydon, Brighton
Ellis; Croydon, Dorset, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire
MacPherson; Scotland
Wills; Cornwall
Taylor; Suffolk
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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 October 11 21:46 BST (UK) »
Just confirming that it was common for certain families to loose children.
During the course of transcribing the local church memorials, countless times there has been included ' and number of children died in infancy'.
As many as six children on one memorial, some names recorded whilst others by numbers.
 Brian
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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 October 11 00:29 BST (UK) »
I think it's quite common - even into fairly modern times. And it seems to be wealth dependent I think.

One of my poorer families in the 1880s and 1890s lost 8 out of 15 children usually before the age of 2 (I doubt the number of kids helped either!).

WHITEHOUSE- Bromsgrove, WANE - Eccleston, TOWERS - Blackburn & Ribble Valley, COLLINGE - Rawtenstall, THOMAS - Penzance, Whitehaven, Haslingden.


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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 October 11 11:59 BST (UK) »
Oh my fancy delivering 15 times  :o
Chattell - London
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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 October 11 12:14 BST (UK) »
Same thing happened in a branch of my family.

They lost 7 children between 1869 and 1878. Johann and Annie died in 1869 aged 2 and 1, another child died aged 1 in 1871 and then 4 died before their first birthday. They then lost another daughter aged 16. They were left with 2 sons. The eldest son married, but his three children also died in infancy. The younger son emigrated to Canada and joined the army. I have traced his records and they say  that he was discharged due to a weak heart, so I wonder if this was hereditary.

It's hard to imagine what they went through.

Jan

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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 October 11 18:48 BST (UK) »
On the 1911 census I found some relatives of my husband who had misunderstood and listed all their children and their ages at death.

Of 8 children, only 2 survived and the ones that died rarely lived to see their first year.  They were living in a very poor part of London, but later moved to Portsmouth and the children born there all reached adulthood.
Chowns in Buckinghamshire
Broad, Eplett & Pope in St Ervan/St Columb Major, Cornwall
Browning & Moore in Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Emms, Mealing & Purvey in Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham in Norfolk
Higho in London
Matthews & Nash in Whichford, Warwickshire
Smoothy, Willsher in Coggeshall & Chelmsford, Essex

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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 October 11 12:33 BST (UK) »
Lots of diseases that some of us remember as children (i.e. measles, chickenpox, polio) were killers, and fortunately they have practically died out in Europe.  Sadly, some are making a comeback, due to the reluctance of some parents to have their children vaccinated.   Children had to run a gauntlet of disease until the age of about 12, and sadly many of them didn't make it.

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Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 October 11 16:06 BST (UK) »
So sad, I have been looking into the area, and it was one of the most impoverished areas, I looked on Booths site and its on there too...

Can anyone make out where Janes Parish was?... It looks to me like St Stephen colman!...

ELLMER - Yorkshire to Strood, Kent
ROGERS - Rochester, Kent
CARDER - Rye to Rochester, Kent
KEMP - Hawkhurst - Rochester, Kent
THOMAS - Chatham, Kent
RHODES - Rye
WOOLLEY - Milton to Rochester
STANLEY - Whitechapel
LOUGHAN - Ireland
BURNET - Essex
SWEATMAN - Kent
BECK - Chatham
BLACK - Rochester
WICKER - Strood
KING - Middlesex - Strood
CROUCH - Headcorn
HICKMOTT - Lamberhurst
BATES - Strood
WELFARE - Sussex - Strood