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King / Earl (e) / McQuillan
« on: Tuesday 18 October 11 17:11 BST (UK) »
Hi folks

In approx 1929 a least 2 great Aunts of mine left Belfast, Northern Ireland and travelled to Canada. Like a lot of family history there are some conflicting pieces of information and alas those who could possibily shed some light on the matter have all left this earth.
There was Rachel King and Minnie King and there was possibily Margaret King although I'm not that sure about her. The Rachel married S Lloyd Earl(e) and Minnie married Arthur McQuillan.
The dispute is that it could be the other way round.
I know the Earl(e) family had a son Billy who I believe had a daughter Linda who has apparently wriiten a book on the family.
There is also a Katleen who is a daughter to some relative as I have a copy letter written by her in the 1960s to her Uncle (my grandfather) in which refers to Minnie and Rachel as her aunts.
The letter is written on headed paper bearing the name Bengough municipal hospital.

I would like to close the book on these folk but just want to let anyone who is related to them that there are relatives in Northern Ireland / Scotland.

Any info would be grateful.

Regards

jardiner

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Re: King / Earl (e) / McQuillan
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 22:32 BST (UK) »
It would be helpful if you would provide some information such as birth date and parents name for Rachel, Minnie and Margaret. As well, you should remove the given names for any person who may still be alive as RootsChat policy does not allow posting that type of information.

Unfortunately there is no central register for BMD events in Canada as it is a provincial jurisdiction. As well, privacy laws vary from province to province. I googled Bengough and it is in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan does have a geneology database online however it does not include marriages. As well it does indicate that marriages from less than 75 years ago are covered by privacy laws.

I did find a Form 30 for a Rachel King who was on the Empress of Britain which arrived in St John, New Brunswick on 31 Mar 1921. She was 34 years old, born in Belfast and going to join her sister in Balcarres, Saskatchewan. She lists her mother as her nearest relative in Ireland - Mrs. A. King, 12 Queen Victoria St, Belfast. The sister appears to be married but I can't make out the surname. Here's a link to the Form 30:
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Could this be the Rachel you are looking for?

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: King / Earl (e) / McQuillan
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacquie in Canada

Thank-you for the reply. You're right of course I should have provided more information and here goes

All were born in Belfast. Rachel born: 1896. Minnie born: 1889. Margaret born 1895.

Parents were Michael Alfred King ( or just Alfred) and Margaret (nee Edgar).

So Yes, it could be her but as always some things just don't fit. Mothers initial ( could be family name like -Aggie). Her age is not right ( in 1911 census she was 15, 10 yrs later she would be 25 +/- 1 yr. The address however is spot on.

The other names metioned I assumed were no longer with us however, on reflection the 2 ladies could still be alive - sorry about that.

Once again, many thanks.

jardiner

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Re: King / Earl (e) / McQuillan
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 17:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I just looked at the Form 30 that Jacquie found.  I think the age on the form is 24, not 34.  This fits with your information.  Also, I found a passenger list from Feb 4 1921, which lists Rachel King, age 24 going to Balcarres.  Her name has a line through it, so she didn't actually make that trip (I guess she came in March instead.).   

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Re: King / Earl (e) / McQuillan
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 17:58 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I just found Minnie on a passenger list - her destination is Balcarres, Sask.   She is Irish and 23 years old.

She was on the Lake Manitoba, departing from Liverpool and arriving in St. John New Brunswick on the 29th of March 1912.   It says she is going to be a servant.   

RK :)

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Re: King / Earl (e) / McQuillan
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 17:59 BST (UK) »
Parents were Michael Alfred King ( or just Alfred) and Margaret (nee Edgar).

So Yes, it could be her but as always some things just don't fit. Mothers initial ( could be family name like -Aggie). Her age is not right ( in 1911 census she was 15, 10 yrs later she would be 25 +/- 1 yr. The address however is spot on.


Mother could be Mrs. A. King (A as in Alfred)
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 20:21 BST (UK) »
Thank-you all for the input. They are definitely the same ladies and I realised,just after I'd written my reply, that of course the 'A' stood for Alfred. Margaret is the missing link. Rachel and Minnie- Canada,other siblings - remaining  in Northern Ireland or England. However if I give an extract from the letter from "Bengough Rural Municipal hospital" written by K on 30th November (somtime in the 1960s)

" Dear Uncle Alf and Aunt Sadie (my Grandparents)......I hear from Aunt Rachel often and she sent me your address. Aunt Minnie passed away on the 19th Nov and laid to rest on 21st in Regina...Uncle Alex will be very lonely now....We are not looking forward to Christmas this year without Mom and dad"

All this would indicate that another sister went to Canada and the writer is related.

Kind regards

jardiner

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 21:37 BST (UK) »
I just looked at the Form 30 that Jacquie found.  I think the age on the form is 24, not 34.  This fits with your information.

It does look like it could be 24 on the Form 30 but the actual passenger list has 34. That could have been a typo on the passenger list though.

" Dear Uncle Alf and Aunt Sadie (my Grandparents)......I hear from Aunt Rachel often and she sent me your address. Aunt Minnie passed away on the 19th Nov and laid to rest on 21st in Regina...Uncle Alex will be very lonely now....We are not looking forward to Christmas this year without Mom and dad"

The possible husbands you listed for Rachel and Minnie were named S. Lloyd and Arthur. Whose Alex?

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 21:49 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I just found Minnie on a passenger list - her destination is Balcarres, Sask.   She is Irish and 23 years old.

She was on the Lake Manitoba, departing from Liverpool and arriving in St. John New Brunswick on the 29th of March 1912.   It says she is going to be a servant.

Here's a link to the image of the passenger list for Minnie King (line 2):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fr0/

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz