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Pease search please ! Am I missing something..??
« on: Monday 17 October 11 20:52 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone again,  I put a post up a few days ago and got a fab response that really helped me so i'm after your help again.

I recevied some really interesting information and but also some unanswered questions...

I was told about a possbile Child name unknown on the 1911 census that could be part of my family tree.
I would be grateful if you could have another look at the details i was given by a very kind rootschat memeber...

Dad George Pease born abt 1881 in london, married Lucy Jocelyn (or Jacelyn) born 1885 kentish town, London. Living 89 Ivy rd, cricklewood.  Children Thomas William born 1909, Elise May born 1911, Lenonard Stephen born 1914, Violet, Gertrude born 1920, Harold, Renee born 1930.

Now i was told that on the 1911 census Thomas is listed - was 1 and half, two chidlren born but the other child had died.  The child is un-named.

I have been looking for this child, and it was hinted that on the bdm there was a George Pease born 1908 and died in 1908 (hackney) which fits time wise and placement. And of course back then most first born were named after their fathers !

But i'm unable to cross refer this with either of the parents.

Has anyone out there got some sort of access to the bdm of approx 1908 and could tell me the names of this poor child george pease !

I've had a look at this timeline, but i cannot access all of the information or i'm missing something !!

Or is my only option to order a certificate for this poor soul and see if he belongs to my family tree,

Thanks very much for reading, Kind regards Tina.x

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Re: Pease search please ! Am I missing something..??
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 October 11 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Tina

The GRO birth index is just an index.

The details found on certificates which would confirm this child's details can only be obtained by buying the certifcate from the GRO at Southport. These cost £9.25.

The other means of confirming if this child belongs to your family would be to look for a baptism, but a lot baptisms from this time aren't online yet. If you can get into London, you could check out the London Metropolitan Archives to see if there is an entry in the baptism registers for the Hackney parishes. By 1908 there could be several possible parish registers to check out.

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 October 11 21:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Dawn, thank you, that's really helpful, I'm very new to this so having found rootschat has been very interesting !

Thanks again x

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 00:32 BST (UK) »
This is the record the other poster was referring to:
Births Dec 1908   
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Pease  George    Hackney  1b 443

The only way to find out for sure would be to order the certificate but remember that George is a very common name and Hackney a very populated area so it could just be a coincidence.  Also in my family tree the latter born children seem to get their parents names not the first born.

Just found a 1903 Pease marriage in Hackney and 3 other children born shortly after that so could easily be another family if the 1908 George doesn't fit with anything you have been told by family memebers.
Marriages Sep 1903 
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Pease  Richard Benjamin    Hackney  1b 967

Births Mar 1905 
Pease  Albert Thomas    Hackney  1b 522   
Pease  Violet Annie     Hackney  1b 438   

Births Jun 1906   
Pease  Constance Margaret E     Hackney  1b 412


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 00:35 BST (UK) »
Forgot to add this is the death record:
Deaths Dec 1908 
Pease  George  0  Hackney  1b 278

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 10:59 BST (UK) »
Hi MaggiesGD thanks for looking, there seem to be so many George Pease in the area and at around that time, I was hoping that a fresh pair of eyes would see something that i'd missed !

It could be just a coincidence as you say, and i'm pretty sure the only way i will find out is to order a cert ! Most of the Pease children, grandchildren etc i'm finding have been named after their other realtives through the line so I'd throught it was possible that the george pease born 1908 could belong to us!

Thanks very much for all of your help, I'm most grateful, kind regards Tina x