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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 20:02 BST (UK) »
It's tempting to dismiss the Hibaldstow thing ... were it not for several CROWDER marriages there. ;)

 ... and how many mentions of Everstow on Google (apart from this thread and a bookie's in Norwich)?
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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 20:14 BST (UK) »
A third reference to Everstow(n) in here......If it were me, I'd dismiss the Hibaldstow theory.

Everstown, near Bregy, Lincs..........

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/e/Jody-Mahan-KS/GENE1-0004.html

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Well, if you'd like to find a place called Bregy in Lincolnshire then I'll think about dismissing Everstow(n) as a very badly mis-pronounced, and therefore misspelt, Hibaldstow.  ;D
The thing is, from exactly where has that third piece of information come from?

I have allegedly looked quite carefully in the Gazetteer published by Lincolnshire FHS, and although it doesn't claim to list what my dad used to describe as 'every pub and pigsty' it does list some obscure places, including hamlets, and place names from way-back.
The only place beginning with 'Ev' is Evedon which is near Sleaford.
There are no places beginning 'Hev'.

So the only alternative is that you are talking about somewhere that is not in Lincolnshire. e.g. Everton in Lancashire.

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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 20:16 BST (UK) »
An appearance by our old friend "the hilliterate haitch" 'ere   ;D http://www.archive.org/stream/antiquary24slsniala/antiquary24slsniala_djvu.txt

Search for Heverstow

Some very interesting spellings of more familiar places too :)
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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 20:38 BST (UK) »
There is always Haverstoe, but that's the name of a Deanery.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Deans/index.html

Map of the Deaneries
http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/Documents/DeaneryMap.pdf

Love some of those spellings, Geoff in that link you've found.  ;D   ;D   ;D


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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 21:05 BST (UK) »
I found an old text which calls Hibbaldtstow Hibberstow. Pronounced without an 'H', it would be Ibberstow, which could be misheard as Everstow.

"Redbourn and Hibberstow are two villages before, and Brigg, a more noted Town after passing them"

Another text

"Roman remains have been found at Brough opposite to Wintringham where the great Roman Road from Lincoln via Broughton (Ebberstow) descended to cross the Humber on its way to York."

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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 22:59 BST (UK) »
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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 09:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Pamthomas

I would put "Bregy" down to being a misinterpretation of "Brigg", which it can look remarkably like, in some of these old scripts.

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Midlothian: Adam(s), Meikle/Muckle
Leith: Bridges
Edinburgh: Brown
Prestonpans: Bird, Inglis
Fife: Wemyss
Orkney: Brock
Ireland: Sweeney

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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Pamthomas

I would put "Bregy" down to being a misinterpretation of "Brigg", which it can look remarkably like, in some of these old scripts.

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I would agree.

But by the same token you can't then just say
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A third reference to Everstow(n) in here......If it were me, I'd dismiss the Hibaldstow theory.

Everstown, near Bregy, Lincs..........

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/h/e/Jody-Mahan-KS/GENE1-0004.html
because you've just proved that names can be misspelt/misinterpreted/mistranscribed.   :)


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Re: Where is Everstow nr Brig please???
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 09:42 BST (UK) »
There is another similar record.

Harriet Crowder
Birth 10 Oct 1805 in Eberstow near Brigy, Lincolnshire
Death 1 May 1849 in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

I can't find a baptism, although there are several other Crowders in Hibaldstow.
It sounds like a mixture of local accent, dropped H, local pronunciation of the village etc., given in a foreign land.

Also:-

1851 Census Swinderby - Ann Scratchard 1810 Hibalstowe, Nottinghamshire
1881 Census Swinderby - Ann Scatchard 1805 Iberstow, Lincoln