Hi Foehn,
What information do you need now? it may pay to make a brief summary of what is needed now the thread has been moved to the NZ board
Cheers Janette
Thanks Janette. The main purpose of the thread was to prove or disprove the
1. That the Robert Field /Margaret Drummond marriage in Hobart, Tasmania 01 Feb 1836 were the parents of Toledo Frankfort Hamilton Field
2. That Robert Field was Irish.
3 To solve the parentage of Elizabeth Field who died in Auckland aged 4˝ 1840s
4 Investigate the marriage of Emily Field and Iver McIver in connection with her father Robert
5 Check intention to marriage for Toledo Field and Emily Field
6 check correspondence in connection to Robert Field's land claims.
Think that's mostly it, with the new possible leads discovered.
Hi there,
Re your points # 2 & # 6
Have you ordered/received any of the papers from the various archives mentioned earlier in this thread? Archway NZ and also NSW SR ... including #17, #27, #36,
I notice on one of the Colonial Pardons at the NSW SR that there’s a description of a Robert Field, transported to NSW under a Life sentence, ex the Ocean. In 1834 he was 5 ft 4 in, with Fair, ruddy complexion, Sandy to Grey hair and Grey eyes. He had been tried 20 March 1815 in Somerset (England), however that obviously does not mean he was born and/or raised in Somerset. It is entirely possible he was born in Ireland, and was raised or spent much of his early life in England. I can see that that particular Robert Field was at Port Stephens, NSW from at least 1819. Perhaps after his CP he then went to Tasmania.
Apart from the Newspaper announcement in the Daily Southern Cross, 26 Sept 1863 stating that Mr Robert Field, “formerly of Dublin....” you also mentioned (#3) that he was in the Bay of Islands in 1830, and that it was unlikely that he was in prison in Australia until ‘pardoned’ several years later.
May I ask please, what other evidence do you have that Toledo's father was Irish?
You will note that the newspaper advertisement says quite clearly that Robert Field was "Formerly of Dublin" There is other evidence to support the fact that Robert Field was an Irishman. He was also in the Bay of Islands in 1830, therefore making it unlikely that he was in prison in Australia until "pardoned" several years later. The Robert Field/ Margaret Drummond is likely, unless Robert (ours) was never in Tasmania to begin with, but he certainly was in Sydney (birth of his son) and I suspect his daughter too, who died in Auckland in the 1840s aged 4˝. Her name was Elizabeth.
Therefore, despite good work carried out by others, unless I can find a proper paper trail, I do not believe that Our Robert Field was either English, or imprisoned as shown in Cando's link. Any help to unravel this mystery is greatly appreciated.
I doubt he was actually “in prison”, rather, I have always presumed that the majority of those persons transported to NS Wales were assigned by the government to other settlers who were then responsible for the day to day needs of the convicted persons. It is thus entirely possible that that Robert Field while nominally at Port Stephens throughout his servitude was perhaps part of a party led by that settler from Port Stephens to the Bay of Islands. You need to remember that the NS Wales governors at that time believed they were responsible for the administration of quite a large territory on both sides of the ditch.
Cheers, JM
