Where do you look

[majm]

The letter should be in the file that Archways holds.   


Also noticing these indexed :
From: Robert Field, Auckland To: [Willoughby Shortland, Esquire] Colonial Secretary Date: 23 March 1841
From: Robert Field, Auckland To: James Coates, Esquire Date: 28 June 1841 
From: George Cooper, Treasury, Auckland To: [Willoughby Shortland, Esquire] Colonial Secretary Date: 13 September 1841 

And the option to ORDER details brings up the file numbers, so you should be able to get access to the contents of the files.   I think the ones above are at the Wellington Offices, but as I mentioned earlier, I am not familiar with the NZ admin systems, and I am confident that the NZ Rchatters will know the NZ system far better than me.  I am very NSW Centric.

Here's the link to the RChat NZ resources Board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=299

and a friendly welcome from their Moderator is at this link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,503066.0.html

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Some thoughts

Rhetorical
If Robert purchased land in NZ in 1830, who was he purchasing it from, where was he located when he entered into that private arrangement and how was the land described....  I can well understand how his application would have failed.  I think Whitehall at one time recognised applications from mid or late 1835 .... or when ever the Declaration of Independence for NZ was ratified in that year. 

If Robert was in VDL at that time, perhaps he was with a regiment on garrison duties, and had shared conversations with some of those on the whaling vessels trading between the South Sea Islands and Hobart and Sydney etc.   

As his land claim of 1841 was disallowed by the Colonial authorities, had he been stepping outside his authority when he entered into that 1830 agreement to purchase land in NZ

New Zealand was administered by the Governor of NSW until William Hobson of the Royal Navy who was firstly appointed as Lt Governor (with guidance from NSW) and then appointed Governor in his own right .... I think he would be the same RN chap who served in VDL in the 1830s ....

Cheers,  JM

[Janette]

Hi,

Here is a curious article in PP,did Toledo have a sister called Emily?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fqj/


Cheers Janette

[majm]

Well found Janette 

I see that NZ BDM online has that marriage indexed for 1861. so a copy or printout of that should help to confirm or eliminate her, and if I am reading Foehn's posts correctly, I think Robert Field was still living when that lass married. 

Can you please give all the information on the 1863 death certificate for Robert Field.

Not much on the certificate. Place of registration: AucklandName and surname:Robert Field Profession or Occupation: Cabinet maker. Sex, age, DOB:  M 76 Numbers, 1-19 not registered If issue living state ages of each sex: M F When died: 25 September 1863 Where died: Private Hospital
Cause of death: General debility.

The certificate does not record that Toledo reported the death. That was on a separate report which was held at the Auckland office of BDM. It definitely said Son, Toledo. No other names recorded

MODIFYING TO ADD

Daily Southern Cross, Volume XIX, Issue 1933, 26 September 1863, Page 3
DEATH.
On September 25th, after a long illness, Mr. Robert field, formerly of Dublin, aged 76 years.  His remains will be removed from the hospital to-morrow (Sunday) afternoon at three o’clock.  Friends will please accept this invitation.

Cheers, JM
 

[Janette]

Hi,

If purchasing info from NZ BDM's you are best to purchase a printout not a certificate as there is more info on a printout

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Glossary/

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

Robert is buried in the Symonds St cemetery

The Anglican St Paul's register has Robert Field buried 27 September 1863, aged 76 years from the Colonial Hospital. Service by Rev Lloyd - reference 51/ 
Subjects Field, Robert, d.1863 
Symonds Street Cemetery

You may get more info from the Anglican Archives

http://www.auckanglican.org.nz/?sid=301


Cheers Janette

[Foehn]

Hi,

Here is a curious article in PP,did Toledo have a sister called Emily?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fqj/


Cheers Janette

Janette, thanks so much for this. I have posted the extract with the Irish group to see if it is linkable with Monkstown and the family I have been interested in.
I see the marriage is recorded in BDM,NZ but their site has now gone down, so need to wait to see if I can get further information. It was indeed a marriage in 1861. I have been wondering, but this is mere speculation, that Toledo may have put that in the paper (for his sister?) he was a fully fledged printer by 1868.

[Foehn]

Robert is buried in the Symonds St cemetery

The Anglican St Paul's register has Robert Field buried 27 September 1863, aged 76 years from the Colonial Hospital. Service by Rev Lloyd - reference 51/ 
Subjects Field, Robert, d.1863 
Symonds Street Cemetery

You may get more info from the Anglican Archives

http://www.auckanglican.org.nz/?sid=301


Cheers Janette

I know roughly where Robert's grave is. Auckland Public library had a printout of various graves and his was on it. I have never been brave enough to visit this part of the city mainly due to street kids and vagrants living under the nearby Grafton Bridge.  One day I will if I can go with a group.

[Janette]

If you are in Auckland,a visit to the Auckland Library's research room would be worthwhile.
The Auckland Star and NZ Herald are on film and you may find more on Toledo


Cheers Janette