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Re: 2 Young Rothwell girls buried in 2 days - any help gratefully recieved
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 October 11 21:22 BST (UK) »
Yes, no death certs this early on, so really the only options I have are graves with info on or newpaper article if it was an accident. I think the Middleton Chronicle/Middletonian was published at the time and it may be in here but don't know how to get access to archives. I have written to them but no answer  -  I live in NZ so cannot travel to them  :(.



Biddiscombe (Wiltshire).
Watson (Stockton on Tees)
Jamieson (Wolviston)
Rothwell (Salford/Heywood, Lancs - Stockton, Durham.)
Paisley(Hampshire)
White (East Stoneham/Liverpool)
Taylor (Liverpool)

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Re: 2 Young Rothwell girls buried in 2 days - any help gratefully recieved
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 October 11 21:34 BST (UK) »
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It is interesting however that there were more than 15 deaths of children under 15 that month alone in that one church

That sounds as if there was an epidemic of some sort. I wonder if the fact that they weren't buried together on the same day is significant? Perhaps it was a case that they had to be buried quickly.

Jan
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 October 11 22:15 BST (UK) »
Good point - makes perfect sense. Does anyone know if there is any record or database of epidemics of disease in certain areas of the UK, again I guess the newspapers would have reported this if it was fairly widespread.
Biddiscombe (Wiltshire).
Watson (Stockton on Tees)
Jamieson (Wolviston)
Rothwell (Salford/Heywood, Lancs - Stockton, Durham.)
Paisley(Hampshire)
White (East Stoneham/Liverpool)
Taylor (Liverpool)

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 October 11 22:26 BST (UK) »
Just typing in the phrase 'cholera epidemics in Lancashire' will give you a site listing a timeline of epidemics throughout Britain.  You'll see that cholera started in 1831, followed by three years in which typhus was pretty rampant.
Toomebridge, County Antrim: Devlin
Toomebridge and Cavan:  McCormick
Glasgow, Wolverhampton, Shropshire:   Hill
Lurgan Co. Armagh:  Malone, Dumigan, McCourt, McGill
St. Pancras, and Poplar, London: Serjeant, Heald
Brookborough Co. Fermanagh:  Carmichael, Tierney
Staffordshire:  Cook
Isle of Wight:   Parkman
Warwickshire:  Kinchin
Cork: Kennedy, Ahern, Deliere

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 October 11 22:42 BST (UK) »

That sounds as if there was an epidemic of some sort. I wonder if the fact that they weren't buried together on the same day is significant? Perhaps it was a case that they had to be buried quickly.

Jan

Were they buried the same day that they died?

Perhaps the girls were put in the grave of someone else being buried on the same day that they died? Maybe they buried the first one, not knowing that the second was going to die the following day? (might explain why they are not buried together?) :-\

Doesn't bear thinking about does it ... :(

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 October 11 22:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you all. Timeline of epidemics is a great resource thank you - have saved that as a favourite for future use. Can't imagine losing 2 children in one day - must have been heartbreaking if not unexpected at the time.

Will endeavour with the newpaper info and if anyone knows of any transcribing of graves at Middleton - St Leonards I would love to know. I'm not sure if the graveyard is still intact, but graves may give up a little more information. If anyone knows of where to find info of MI's at St Leonards it would be most appreciated.

Thanks heaps

Sarah
Biddiscombe (Wiltshire).
Watson (Stockton on Tees)
Jamieson (Wolviston)
Rothwell (Salford/Heywood, Lancs - Stockton, Durham.)
Paisley(Hampshire)
White (East Stoneham/Liverpool)
Taylor (Liverpool)

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 October 11 23:05 BST (UK) »
As Ruskie said, they may not have had their own grave as they may have been buried with someone else or have been buried in a common grave.   Unless the family were well off they probably wouldn't have a headstone.

Jan
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Re: 2 Young Rothwell girls buried in 2 days - any help gratefully recieved
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 October 11 10:44 BST (UK) »
  Hi there, Romwai

I think these are what you are  looking for. :)

Rachell Rothwell age 2 years daughter of Joseph ansd Sarah Rothwell buried 7th Sept 1834 St Leonards Churchyard Middleton Lancashire

Elizabeth Rothwell age 8 years daughter of Joseph and Sarah Rothwell  buried 8th Sept 1834 St Leonards churchyard Middleton

abode Middleton.

Buried by R C W Wilkinson Curate

Register 1829-1834 page 194 enrty 1548




Here is another additon to  the Rothwell family.


Baptism

Elizabeth Rothwell Baptised 16th July 1826 Manchester Cathederal

Father Joseph Rothwell mother Sarah


Marriage


Joseph Rothwell married Sarah Poole

14th Aug 1820 Manchester Catherderal



additon to information


Baptism of Raechell Rothwell daughter of Joseph and Sarah Rothwell

Baptised 23 Sept 1832 baptised by R C W Wilkinson Curate St Leonards church middleton

Abode Middleton occupation Dyer


Cheers Ecclescake


Picture of this church can be found on the Lancs on  line parish church aliong with  plenty of church records.


Cheers

Ecclescake 2003


 I found some more siblings

Joseph Rothwell  Baptised 4th Jan 1824 St Thomas Church Ardwick Manchester Lancs

son of Joseph Rothwell occ Dyer and Sarah

Bapt by W Wordsworth Curate



Richard Rothwell Bapt 10Aug 1834 St Leonards Middleton Lancs

son of Joseoh Rothwell occ Dyer and Sarah

Bapt by R C W Wilkinson Curate








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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 October 11 11:21 BST (UK) »
Great finds EcclesCake2003!  ;D