LUND Ellen (Completed)

[kiwi-terrier]

Hi Beg

Thanks for the extra information, will ask my friend if he is interested in getting in touch with the Rotorua lot.

Regards
kiwi-terrier

[Beg Clonrode...]

Also mentions two other sisters, still alive in 2001.

Hi again...

Both sisters passed away within a few weeks of each other in 2009.

But both of their death notices mention children.

Perhaps these children know where their g-grandfather Henry SMITH is buried. Perhaps his wife Ellen is buried next to him. Would be handy.

Regards
Beg

[kiwi-terrier]

Hi Beg

Would you have the surnames of the two sisters that died in 2009,
as I only have the 1st names.

kiwi-terrier

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi KT...

Sent off the death notices to your kiwi-terrier ihug email address. Hope it's still current.

Let me know if there's a problem with the zip file.

EDIT:

Sorry. Forgot to mention source for Ruby May ROBINSON

Rotorua Daily Post
Page 37
Saturday 28 July 2001


Regards
Beg

[Beg Clonrode...]

Would you have the surnames of the two sisters that died in 2009,

And for future reference...

BDM NZ Deaths

2009/19958

2009/18284

Beg

[kiwi-terrier]

Hi Beg

Thanks for the extra information.
The 1st one was the one I was missing (BDM), managed to find the 2nd one by putting the maiden name in BDM and you have confirmed it for me.

Burials
Waiheke Island has 1 of them on the data base
Waikumete has 3 of them on the data base
Rotorua has 2 of them of the data base and maybe the elusive mother Ellen / Elizabeth

Only one to find is Victor Albert, no idea when died or buried, just before 1999.

Will go through the rest of the information tomorrow

Kiwi-terrier

[Beg Clonrode...]

Rotorua has 2 of them of the data base and maybe the elusive mother Ellen / Elizabeth

Hi KT...

An infant SMITH is buried in the plot adjacent to Ellen Elizabeth SMITH at Rotorua. Possibly a grandchild?

Jean SMITH - 18 months d.o.d 18 Aug 1923

BDM NZ - 1923/10573 SMITH, Jean Kelsey 18M

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Only one to find is Victor Albert, no idea when died or buried, just before 1999.

If you haven't already, I think I've managed to eliminate the three Victor no-middle-name SMITH's on BDM NZ deaths. Definitely the last two and most likely the first one.

1989/50094 - SMITH, Victor - b.1916 in Chch d.1989 in Chch
1994/34713 - SMITH, Victor - buried in Hastings, headstone gives different army serial number to Victor
1998/20070 - SMITH, Victor - b.1923 so too young for 1938 electoral roll

You could always try for Victor's WW2 service record. It may note his death, although the NZDF usually want proof of death before sending it out. But it's pretty easy using electoral rolls to link Victor's WW2 Nominal roll listing to the 1999 death notice for Leslie James SMITH, which you said mentions his brother Victor as deceased. Would be interesting to see if the NZDF accept that as proof.

Regards
Beg

[kiwi-terrier]

Just received the death certificate for the Ellen Elizabeth SMITH that died 1923 aged 75 and buried Rotorua.

According to information on years in NZ , 70, can not be her 
Husband is a William SMITH and was alive at time of death.
Her fathers name William AUCHRAN, mother's unknown
Children: M: 48, 38, 27
                F: 56,54,52,50,46,30
Undertaker is the informant

Kiwi-terrier        

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi KT...

That is disappointing but fair play to your friend for putting his money where someone else's mouth is.

Is there any interest in contacting descendants of Orpheus SMITH or is that a non-starter. Understandable if it is cos it's one thing to sit in front of a computer digging up names but quite another to actually come face to face with one of the names, especially when they realize that a complete stranger has been poking around in their family.

Regards
Beg