Hello Lucy...
Just following up from your latest posts. No new information as such.
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From LDS "Parish registers of Morpeth, Northumberland, 1583-1940 "
Name: - Elizabeth Ellen DOUGLAS
Gender: - Female
Baptism/Christening Date: - 04 Aug 1855
Baptism/Christening Place: - Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Mother's Name: - Ellen DOUGLAS
Name: - Joseph DOUGLAS
Gender: - Male
Baptism/Christening Date: - 04 Aug 1855
Baptism/Christening Place: - Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Mother's Name: - Ellen DOUGLAS
FreeBMD has the 1854 births but the spelling is Elizabeth Eleanor (not Ellen)
DOUGLASS and Joseph
DOUGLASSNo mention of their father on LDS
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"The Waitangi" arrives into Lyttleton on 18 Sep 1876.
Registered two months later on the 22 Nov 1876 in Christchurch is the following death
1876/4125 - ALLEN, Ellen - aged 6Y
Possibly Ellen b.1870 ? (daughter of Ellen DOUGLAS and ?)
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Margery ALLAN (per "Waitangi" 1876) -- connection to West Coast (Greymouth).
"Grey River Argus" - 23 May 1884 - Res. Magistrate's Court, Greymouth
Margery ALLAN testifying in case re: Sarah JONES"
This may (or may not) be a red herring.
The 1896 electoral roll for Grey lists a "Margery ALLEN, Taylorville - Housewife"
I think she is the wife of the John ALLEN of Taylorville who was killed in the Brunner Mine disaster in March 1896.
I wouldn't be too fussed about the spelling of her surname. Here are two identical news reports in two different papers with different spellings.
Marjory ALLEN Marjory ALLANHere is some info on her from "Australian Mining History"
"Margaret Allen, one of the 37 widows of the disaster, was married to John Allen in Greymouth in 1879, and by 1896 was the mother of 4 children aged 10, 8, 6 and 2. She is the only one to have crossed “the ditch” after the disaster, settling in Melbourne in 1898. The reason for this is not known. She did not remarry"Here is a link to the source PDF.
Not sure if this link will work because it's a google session link. And it's a 2MB download so you may not want to download it. Margaret ALLEN is mentioned only the once, on page 95.
As this Margery/Margaret was married in 1879, and the Margery ALLAN on the Waitangi was eight in 1876, they're more than likely two different people.
And at the time of the court case (Grey River Argus - 23 May 1884) Margery from the Waitangi would have only been sixteen. Possibly too young to be on licensed premises. Definitely too young to be in court testifying that she was on licensed premises, especially these ones....
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The 1911 electoral roll for Grey lists an "Eleanor ALLAN, Taylorville - Widow", presumably the mother of "SAFFEL or DOUGLAS - Mrs. E" that you found in "War Cry". There are six other ALLENs listed as living in Taylorville, four miners and two wives. Charles, George, Hugh and John (miners) plus Lily and Alice Mary Maud (wives). Wonder if any of them are half-brothers to Elizabeth Ellen DOUGLAS. If so, wonder if they had families. Maybe there's a descendant somewhere on the West Coast who has all the answers in a suitcase up in their attic
Regards
Beg
