Alfred Quelch iromongers assistant COMPLETED

[Kessia05]

Hi I am after any info on the above, born around 1853. Father was James quelch (DOB 30/03/1828) who was a tanner married to Mary Ann born 1830 and died 1858. I think there son Alfred had a middle name "James" and he emigrated to New Zealand sometime in the late 1860's early 70's (could be wrong though).

Thanks

[PaulC120]

Hi Kesia05

May be worth re-posting on the Oxfordshire forum, according to FindMyPast

there is a James Quelch b.1828 Oxford , a Carrier & wife Mary A Quelch b.1830 Oxford residing at 8 Albert Street,  St Ebbe,  Oxford. and also according to FindMyPast in 1/4 of 1853 the birth of an Alfred James Stephen Quelch was registered in the Oxford district Vol:3a Page:531

Somebody may be able to check the St Ebbe parish records to confirm is these are your folks

[Kessia05]

Thanks I was beginning to think the same.

Not sure I am related to an Alfred James Quelch who was for a time an Ironmonger in Timaru NZ. He was married in 1876 in Dunedin NZ but was not born in NZ. He also does not appear in any passenger list so it is a stab in the dark. Hopefully I'll get back to NZ next year so I can look into his probate.

Steve

[Otamatata]

Hello
Alfred James Quelch is my great grandfather.  My mother Gwen Quelch was the youngest daughter of John Hector Quelch - who was one of 5 sons and 2 daughters of Alfred James and Ellen Josephine (nee Fleming) Quelch.  I have very little on Alfred's origins apart from being born circa 1851, Oxfordshire, worked as an ironmonger and immigrated to Dunedin, New Zealand in 1870.
He married Ellen Josephine Fleming, of Co. Limerick, Ireland (b. circa 1854 Ireland) in Dunedin 19 April 1876.  Alfred died 21 April 1943 Dunedin and is buried with his wife at Anderson Bay Cemetery Dunedin.
He ran an ironmonger business in Timaru and also operated in Dunedin.  Their home was at 2 Victoria Street, Mosgiel just south of Dunedin and still stands today - a beautiful two storey wooden homestead.
I have quite a considerable amount of information about the Quelch and the Fleming families of their time here in New Zealand.  I would be very interested in knowing about the Quelch family prior to immigrating.  I think some of his siblings ended up in Australia, but can not verify this.
Regards

[keyboard86]

Hi to help you out this looks to be Alfred in 1871 Census

Rachel Quelch Head 82 occ Annuitant (Retired)
Rachel Quelch 48 Daughter occ Lodging House Keeper (Deaf)
ALFRED Quelch 18 Grandson occ Ironmongers Assistant
Josiah Quelch 14 Grandson occ Cabinet Maker Apprentice (Impedement in speech)
Emily Quelch 13 Grandaughter occ ? Maker
All born Oxfordshire.
Plus 3 Boarders
Residing at Speedwell Street, St Ebbe, Oxford
Census Ref RG10/1440/15/23
Keyboard86

PS the James Quelch b 1828 is a CURRIER ie a Tanner!

[keyboard86]

Hi again, in 1861 an Alfred J S Quelch aged 8 is a pupil at a Commercial School in Clifton Hampden, Berkshire Census Ref RG09/734/10/13

Possibly this is where he learnt his Ironmongery skills.

Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi agin working upwards this looks to be James ( Alfred's father) in 1841 Census

Stephen Quelch 50 occ Leather Dealer
Mary 20 occ Dressmaker
Stephen 15
JAMES 13
Martha 11
Henry 7
Richard Cooper 23
Residing at St Ebbe Street, Oxford

Cannot readily locate Rachel the mother in 1841

1851 Census

Stephen Quelch 63 occ Leather Seller b Littlemore Oxfordshire
Rachel 58 b Warborough, Oxfordshire
Martha 21 b Oxford
Residing at St Ebbe Street, Oxford
Census Ref HO107/1728/212/37

?? There is another Rachel with a son Stephen QULCH on HO107/1728/506/19 aged 60 Stephen aged 25 this Rachel is a Curriers wife?


If you can locate the 1861 Census from the reference ( as must get some sleep) large grouping (Rachel is now a Widower) Census Ref RG09/895/39/17
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, James 23 and Mary A 21 are at 8, Albert Street, St Ebbe in 1851
Census ref HO107/1728/233/24


Marriage James Quelch to Mary Ann Arnatt Sept 1850 Witney v16 page 223
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again as I am now awake, would like some input as to the odd 1851 and following 1861:-

Stephen QULCH Head/Son 25 occ Printer Compositor b Oxford
Margaret 24 Wife b Keinton Wilts
Unnamed Son 1 month b Oxford
Rachel 60 Mother b Long Whittenham Berks
Residing at New Inn, Hall Street, Oxford
Census ref HO107/1728/506/19


1861 Census
Stephen Quelch 34 Head/Widower occ Farmer & Currier employing 20 Curriers & 1 Carp, ? b Oxford
Rachel 68 Mother/Widow b Marborough Oxford
Rachel 36 Sister b Oxford
Henry 27 Brother b Oxford
Henry 10 Son b Oxford
Margaret 8 Daughter b Oxford
Ellen 6 Daughter b Oxford
Mary Ann 9 Niece b Oxford
Florence 7 Niece b Oxford
Emily 3 Niece b Oxford
Jane Knight 26 Unmarried/Sister in Law b Draycot Wilts
Plus Servants/ Visitors
Residing at 90 Friar Street, St Ebbe, Oxfordshire
Census ref RG09/895/39/17

Marriage Stephen Quelch to Margaret Knight  June 1850 Bicester v16 page 59
ie is it a bad transcription for Rachel snr in 1851, and is she on 2 returns?
Keyboard86