Rev Alfred Pickles

[ashgroveguy]

Hi guys
I'm an Aussie chasing my roots through both England (Yorkshire & surrounds mainly) and Australia. I am currently successfully chasing one of my first cousins three times removed, the Rev Alfred Pickles, who was for a time a pastor in Rochdale, then at North End Baptist Chapel in Towcester, Lancashire.
One of the Google links that came up was to this forum, though about 4 years ago, regarding a publication that several members had, called "Th'owd Chapel" (The Old Chapel), in Rochdale, which had some information about the Reverend, as well as a picture of him. I would love to be able to get hold of scans of the relevant info. The posts I have from that time was by usernames "Gillg" and "Brownand Grey". If anyone can help me obtain this info it would be appreciated. i have done some searches trying to find the book online, but to no avail. I have managed to get info about the Reverend Alfred's death through the Baptist Union in the UK. Thanks.

Tim

[JDGen]

Hi Tim and welcome to Rootschat,

I think that this is the thread you are referring to:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,239337.0.html

If you click on the link and then the reply button you can post on the thread - this should alert anyone who has previously posted.

Jean

[Gillg]

Hi Tim, and welcome to RootsChat!

I have a copy of "Th'Owd Chapel", in which there is a small photo of Rev. Alfred Pickles, which I will be happy to scan for you, however I have a PDF file of the whole booklet which I can send you - just hope you can understand Lancashire dialect!

So that I can attach the file to an email, you will need to make 3 postings, then send me a Personal Message with your email address.  You can do this by clicking on the icon on the left of my reply which looks like a green scroll.

Incidentally, the only Towcester I know of is in Northamptonshire and is pronounced "Toaster"!

If you click on the link which Jean provided you will see a photo of the Chapel dignitaries, but the minister there is Rev. Davies. 

Regards
Gillg

[Pastmagic]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~towcesterfamilies/NENDHIST.htm

Has a paragraph about Rev Pickles. It ends with "Alfred Pickles appears to have left in 1891, and in the 1891 Census is in The Drapery in Northampton, working as a Hatter and Hosier. The church may have been too small to warrant a pastor at that point...."

PM

See also:

Turkey, Russia, England, and the Jews: A Sunday evening's lecture, delivered in the Baptist Chapel, Water Street, Rochdale, February 10th, 1878 by Alfred Pickles (1878)

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=Rochdale&rh=n%3A22%2Ck%3ARochdale&page=1                       

[Pastmagic]

If that historical reference to the census is correct, poor Alfred goes bankrupt soonafter.

http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/10278/pages/849/page.pdf.

PM

[ashgroveguy]

Thank you all. I obtained the Rootsweb info yesterday, including a copy of the Church Book, which was interesting reading. Thanks you PM for the item in the Edinburgh Gazette - he's not the first member of the family to have gone bankrupt. His uncle also did. Gill, i would love a copy of the book - though I'll have to brush up on my Lancaster accent LOL. getting any family photo's (I have very few) is very exciting. I will contact you with my email address. I still have to do further research to find out where he was after 1891, as he is not in the next census at the towcester address. The Baptist Union have him living at Wealdstone in Middlesex in 1920, which is the year he died. I have yet to chase his children. This is the branch of the family that for some unknown reason opted for the "Pickles" spelling of the family name, instead of "Pickhills", which his Uncle used (and who I'm descended from), which is why it hasn't been researched earlier. Alfred's aunt Priscilla (who he lived with for a while in Rochdale) used both Pickhills and Pickles, so it get's confusing.

[keyless]

I'm another distant cousin of Alfred Pickles - also in Australia.  Can anyone help with deciphering the occupation he lists in the 1901 census?  A dealer in . 

[mosiefish]

Hello Keyless,

Welcome to Rootschat.

I think his occupation is Yarn Dealer. 

RG13/124 folio 54 page 40 if anyone wants a go.

Kind Regards,
Mo

[ashgroveguy]

Hi guys. i haven't been able to work that one out myself, despite zooming in as much as I can.

Keless, if you need any info let me know...I have quite a bit on him now. I have a blog where I am (slowly, as time permits) putting up family stories as they come to light - I am a freelance writer, so it is yet another area for writing. The blog is at http://timalderman.wordpress.com and there is a biography of the Rev Pickles there, along with the tragic story if my brothers short life. Other stories coming. As a result of the blog, I had. Fifth cousin contact me, who has info I must get iff her.  We are probably very distantly related, keyless as the family thins out at that stage. My distant cousin and myself had Clara and Joseph Pickhills as a common ancestor. She was from the Pickles line, I from the Pickhills.  I have copies of the Revs sermon,  many newspaper snippets etc after retiring as a pastor, he took up selling gloves and hosiery.