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Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« on: Thursday 13 October 11 16:59 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
         Robert Wright and Jane (McLeod) married in 1877 in Auchterarder.  From their marriage cert, I have details of parents.  I have so far exhausted the McLeod line but am trying to trace the Wright line:

Parents of Robert Wright jr were Robert Wright snr and Ann (McKeith).  I can find no record of their marriage but have found a census record of 1851 which shows a Robert Wright (Cotton weaver), with wife Ann and children including son Robert aged 2.  This ties in with Robert jr's age at marriage in 1877 as 27 years old.

I have also traced a death cert for an Ann Wright (ms/ McKeith) from Auchterarder (and the only one I can find on SP), in 1894.  That lists the witness/informant as son James? and husbands occupation as Fireman? (but from Robert Wright Jr's marriage cert - that lists his father Robert's occ as weaver as well)??

Any help/ideas please?
Donnelly, Loney, McLauchlan, Tweedle, Petrie, Loew

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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 October 11 17:35 BST (UK) »
hi Gazza  :)

from the 1881 census robert wright age 56 is noted as a stoker which could also be a fireman
he has a son peter age 14 and a daughter jessie age 20 , occupations powerloom weavers
i think you have found the correct family
if you check the IGI for births for peter and jessie in auchterarder the parents
are robert wright and ann mckeith/mckeich

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added - there is a marriage for a robert wright and ann MCKEICH 20th aug 1845 auchterarder perth
 
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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 October 11 19:02 BST (UK) »
In 1877 when Robert jr was married, he listed occ of father Robert as 'Woolen Weaver'.  this doesn't seem to relate to fireman or stoker?

Is there any info on 1871 census for this family to list a Robert as a son of Robert?

I have looked again at the marriage cert of Robert jr and the mother Ann's maiden name is definately McKeith, and not McKeich (good spot though) - just confused over the occupations - and why there is no marrieage to be found for Robert Wright and Ann McKeith...
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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 October 11 21:01 BST (UK) »
looking at the index of the 1861 census i have children to a robert and ann Wright in Auchterarder as -

william b.1847
robert b.1849
mary b.1851
ann b.1854
daniel b1856
james b.1859
janet b.1861(jessie in 1881 - age 20 ?)

would william , robert , and mary match up to your 1851 census  :-\

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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 October 11 09:52 BST (UK) »
Yes, the 1851 census record I checked for Robert wright does match:
 
william b.1847
robert b.1849
mary b.1851

However, there were 2 census records for a Robert Wright aged 26.  I looked at data: 329/00 003/00 011, but have not looked at 329/00 007/00 006.  This could also be the Robert snr I am looking for.  Until I confirm there was no Robert on this other census return, I cannot be 100% sure.

Also still unsure why I can't find any marriage cert for Robert Wright / Ann McKeith?
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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 October 11 10:44 BST (UK) »
since official records in scotland did not start until 1855 there will be no marriage certificate for robert and ann
the old parish records(OPR's) are the place to look for records before this
these can patchy at best
births and marriages are not too bad but deaths are another story , also these record are only church of scotland i believe(i.e. not catholic)
i think some of the splinter church records are noted as well

as for that 1845 marriage  :-\
one letter out ?
seems to be the right place and the right time(william born 1847)
what are the chances of a another robert wright and ann mckeith/mckeich
marriage in perthshire at that time ?

i think it would be worth a look at that OPR marriage on scotlandspeople  :-\

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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 October 11 12:41 BST (UK) »
A breakthrough!

Death Cert of Ann wright (McKeith) (husband listed as Robert - Fireman.  As previously mentioned I am assuming he changed career from weaver later in life!)

Anyway, it lists Ann's parents as William McKeith and Lillias (Maule).  Now I can't find any details of a marriage, but have found details of a death of Lillias McKeith (Maule) in Auchterarder in 1863 (born in 1786).

So, at some point I will hopefully look at the death cert and get Lillias's parents, which will take me back to mid 1700s!! :)

Decided not to look at the marriage cert for Robert Wright and Ann (McKEICH), as marriage certs pre 1855 have no real info on them.
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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 October 11 14:04 BST (UK) »
 :)

ann MCKEICH born 9th aug. 1823 auchterarder perth
parents william MCKEICH and lilias maul(IGI)

as for the OPR's your correct that most of the time there is no real info. on them but sometimes you get lucky
there was a birth record recently on here which named the grandfather of the
child

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Re: Wright & Mckeith fm Auchterarder
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 October 11 14:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks :) :)
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