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Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:28 BST (UK) »
Am trying to find out what happened to Catherine Merritt of Bramdean/Hinton Ampner.

Catherine Moran was born about 1789/1791 in Ireland, married her first husband, William Norgate in 1810, then married Stephen Merritt after William's death in 1818.

Catherine and Stephen last appear in the 1861 census, in Bramdean, (the census actually says 'Bramdean Common, Bramdean, Tents'),but then disappear, and I have been unable, so far, to find her death or monumental inscription for her, anywhere.
Wren:Southampton/Hampshire.
Earley:Southampton/Hampshire/Somerset/Wiltshire/Bath/Berkshire.
Norgate:Hampshire/France.
Rouse:Southampton/Hampshire/Wiltshire/Dorset.
Weeks:Southampton/Hampshire.
Humby:Southampton/Hampshire/Wiltshire.
Moran:Ireland/Hampshire/Dorset.

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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 11:44 BST (UK) »
FreeBMD has a death for a Stephen MERRETT June quarter of 1862 Alresford registration district.

If they were travellers they could died anywhere.  She may have returned to Ireland.

Catherine could have remarried.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 12:05 BST (UK) »
Hi they were listed as Merrit in 1861.
Tinam
There is a Lucy listed further down as Merrit a needlewoman aged 34yrs. Address just says from house.
I can't see tents for Stephen, just living on the Common.

Hi Bearkat, I doubt Catherine would have remarried, she was 70 in census 1861
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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 12:08 BST (UK) »
Don't be too worried about the spelling of names.

Many of our ancestors were unable to read and write.  They told the official their name and they wrote it down as they thought best resulting in may variants of the same name.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 December 11 07:39 GMT (UK) »
Catherine Moran was born about 1789/1791 in Ireland, married her first husband, William Norgate in 1810, then married Stephen Merritt after William's death in 1818.
Do you have any idea where 1st husband William died/was buried and if he served in the Army? 

I note that Catherine married MERRIT 25 Oct 1823 at Hinton Ampner and there was a William NORGATE aged 25 in their 1841 household in Bramdean who was not born in-County:  possibly a son later claiming born c1814 Hampton Court?

SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 March 13 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Am still trying to find out what happened to Catherine Merritt, who is in the 1861 census for Bramdean but then disappears.
I have tried her name with various spellings to no avail.
A few people have suggested she died in Bramdean in 1863 but I have been unable to find the exact reference of her death, so I could buy a death certificate and no-one else seems to have an exact reference either, other than Bramdean, 1863.
Anyone any ideas?
Wren:Southampton/Hampshire.
Earley:Southampton/Hampshire/Somerset/Wiltshire/Bath/Berkshire.
Norgate:Hampshire/France.
Rouse:Southampton/Hampshire/Wiltshire/Dorset.
Weeks:Southampton/Hampshire.
Humby:Southampton/Hampshire/Wiltshire.
Moran:Ireland/Hampshire/Dorset.

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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 March 13 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Def no "Tents" in 1861. The tick box says "House" as Tina says.
They have lived next door to the farm for 10+ years.
They have lived in Bramdean for 20+ years, so no "travellers" either.

Possible? ....................
Henry Stephen Marriott
Death Reg. 1863 Q1 Andover 2c 123 ?

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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 March 13 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Catherine appears to have been a well-travelled lady if she was mother to the two NORGATE children born in France whilst her first husband was serving with the 11th Lt. Dragoons.  It appears that her daughter Catherine preferred the Christian name Caroline but I can't trace her marriage in either name to a FOSTER before she was recorded a widow with her brother in Hinton Ampner 1881.

I'm very cautious about the assumption that the MERRITTs lived for 20 years in Bramdean.  Census nights are only a 'snapshot' of one Sunday night each decade, as I was reminded when it became evident that a reportedly 'silly-looking' and 'rather simple' Ag lab made it to USA and back as a Miner and otherwise appeared to have remained a rustic in the UK when he resurfaced in the home parish .....
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Catherine Merritt- Bramdean/Hinton Ampner
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 March 13 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if it would help, but from somewhere, way back when, I've got George's name as George Lovell Foster.
Wren:Southampton/Hampshire.
Earley:Southampton/Hampshire/Somerset/Wiltshire/Bath/Berkshire.
Norgate:Hampshire/France.
Rouse:Southampton/Hampshire/Wiltshire/Dorset.
Weeks:Southampton/Hampshire.
Humby:Southampton/Hampshire/Wiltshire.
Moran:Ireland/Hampshire/Dorset.