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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 01:51 GMT (UK) »
I thought I had better add my piece to all the information that has been given on Myrtle Eva Quelch / Myrtle May McKeon.  As Myrtle was my father's half-sister, I can maybe correct a couple of items.  Myrtle did not meet Harriet for the first time around 1927 - she had always visited Harriet, her husband Frederick and my father - my father could remember her coming to visit at their house from when he was a small child, and often commented on how much Myrtle looked like Harriet.  Harriet died when he was 8 years old, so obviously Myrtle did know that Harriet was her birth mother.
Her marriage registration to Harold Filmer in 1958 shows Myrtle's father as Arthur Joseph McKeon and her mother as Cecilia McKeon, with maiden surname of mother as Quelch.  Arthur McKeon's death notice from the NZ Herald shows that he died at 8 Patterson Street at the residence of his sister, Mrs Egan.  His Death Certificate shows he died at 8 Patterson Street from 119 Franklin Road (where several McKeons were living at the time).  His Death Certificate shows relationship status at time of deat as Not Recorded, place of marriage, name of spouse/partner as NR.  It is possible that Arthur McKeon was her birth father, but my father could also remember visiting a motor building (panelbeater) shop in/around Pitt Street Auckland with his mother (Harriet) where they were always welcomed as if they were part of the family, and he had always felt that possibly one of the sons there was Myrtle's father.  He thought the family's name there was McGhee or similar, and I believe there was a motor building shop in that area at that time.  Myrtle and Harold Filmer married in May 1958, after Myrtle's first husband William John Lynch had died, although Myrtle had left him some years before.  The marriage certificate shows both Myrtle and Harold living in Arthur Street Ponsonby at the time of their marriage.
Although we can't find anything on Cecilia/Cecelia Quelch, she must have been related in some way, as there were not that many Quelches in Auckland, and all I believe were related at that time.  It may have been a family (nick)name, as Harriet was known to all her family, including in handed-down family stories) as Sissy.  None of my father's cousins that we kept in touch with knew about Myrtle, and didn't know of Cecilia either, so she is probably a dead end.  If anyone can find anything it would be great to know, and thanks for all the research you have all done.

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 03:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi all....what a fun search.

Here's another thought.... think Catholic .... they gave homes to  unwanted children. There were at least TWO McKeon unmarried females. Could these ladies have been in an Order, with one taking the name of Sister Cecilia of the Cross or something like this???

Arthur McKeon would probably have paid for the up keep of his child - food, goods or trade. Arthur & Cecila would then rear this child?

Kate
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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 11:16 GMT (UK) »

Although we can't find anything on Cecilia/Cecelia Quelch, she must have been related in some way, as there were not that many Quelches in Auckland, and all I believe were related at that time.  It may have been a family (nick)name, as Harriet was known to all her family, including in handed-down family stories) as Sissy.  


Hi Maggie .... and thank you for the clarification and additional info, will read through it more thoroughly in a moment.    :)

Most interesting though is that Harriet was known as "Sissy".

"Sissy" or "Cissy" are diminutives are of the girls names Cecilia / Cecelia / Cicely.    ;)

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 11:37 GMT (UK) »
oops, sorry  ... typo in previous post.   :-[     Should read  ....

"Sissy" or "Cissey/ Cissy" are diminutives of the girls names, Cecilia/ Cecelia/ Cecily/Cicely.   ;)

[I think it probably makes sense then that the more formal "Cecilia" was used in place of the pet name "Sissy" for the purpose of say, any official records .... and that Cecilia QUELCH really was, Harriet nee QUELCH. ]

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bunny,

I found the FD's record for Arthur Joseph McKeon,he never married and died at his sisters's house 8 Patteson St Freemans Bay,his sister was Mrs W J Lynch (1921/8722 Myrtle May  McKeon  to William John  Lynch )
His father was James McKeon ,married to Mary Ann O'Hanlon
Arthur is buried with with his brother James who died in 1921



Arthur McKeon's death notice from the NZ Herald shows that he died at 8 Patterson Street at the residence of his sister, Mrs Egan.


Hi Maggie

Hmm ... yes I see now that we really didn't have the benefit of knowing earlier just what was contained in the actual death notice.

Have you managed to find out which McKEON sister was married to a Mr EGAN ?

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lu

Thanks for your reply - any thoughts help.  Problem is Harriet's full name was Harriet Ellen Quelch, although it is possible that it was a name used purely for upbringing of Myrtle.

No, I haven't had time yet to look at marriages for McKeon/Egan - my next job!!! Always so many things to do / think of.  It seems that several of the family members changed their names - one of Myrtle's daughters is shown on her marriage certificate as Betty May Lynch (father William John Lynch that was Myrtle's first husband), married to Graham Rattray Whyte, yet the electoral rolls show Graham Rattray Whyte and Elizabeth Marie Whyte!!!!!  It would be much easier if people stuck to their original names!!!

Maggie   

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 16 November 11 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maggie

The electoral rolls (able to be viewed in full at Anc**try if you have a subscription) are probably the quickest way to locate Mrs EGAN.   Somebody on here, may be able to help with that info.   ;)

I'd cross-checked EGAN / McKEON marriages and didn't find anything (- it's possible though that the sister if widowed, was re-married to an EGAN ? ) .

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 03:48 GMT (UK) »
HI  -BIT OUT OF SYNCH WITH YOUR CURRENT THREAD BUT Just been making a list of descendants of Mark and Hannah Newton who were part of the Albertlander migration - we were thinking of trying to contact as many descendants as possible and encourage them to come to the reunion EASTER 2012 SEE ALBERTLAND WEBSITE for a family reunion
The names that led me to you (and rootschat) are

SOLOMON FINEY M ROSA EMILY NEWTON 189(4?)
EVA JANE FINEY daughter of above M THOMAS QUELCH  1906

am a descendant of Eva NEWTON sister of ROSA EMILY

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 04:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Disedburgh,

Welcome to Rootschat!!!  You will find lots of helpers on the boards willing to give you any assistance you need (as long as it is to do with people that are not living).  However you just happen to be in the right place if you are looking for a new cousin!

Eva Jane Finey Quelch was my great-grandmother.  HI CUZ!!!!!  ;D  Wonderful to 'meet' you!!!

Maggie49 is a new cousin on the Quelch side that I've just met recently due to the lure of Rootschat and all of the information on it.  Maggie49 has the coolest photos!!!!

Under most of our user names is a little green scroll.  I think it becomes active after three postings and then you are able to send private messages to board members and sensitive items like email addresses.

This is so awesome!!!  Another cousin!!! :D :D  Wow!!!  Makes me want to hit the web again to find more things.

Cheers
Bunny 8)
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