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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 16 October 11 19:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Bunny,

Another occupant of  ROMAN CATHOLIC DIVISION C Row 21, Plot 61


 MCKEON, HENRY

Age 73

 LABOURER

 died      22-Aug-1936

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 16 October 11 20:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Bunny,

It would be worth contacting the Auckland Catholic Diocesan Archive


http://thecommunityarchive.org.nz/node/74118/profile

There is a reference to the Catholic register in the cemetery records for James,Arthur's father


The Catholic register has James McKeon died 9 August 1914 aged 88 years and buried 11 August 1914 of Brown Street


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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #56 on: Monday 17 October 11 09:23 BST (UK) »
Hi there everyone,

I can feel Althea's frustration so I feel the thread must be followed just to see if it goes anywhere.

The only Alexander Cross that features in the Births index is married to an Augusta Veronica Cross.  They had six children, four of whom were girls - Violet Blanch Victoria (1887), Augusta Louisa (1879), Lavender Gladys Irene (1890), and Mary Rowena (1880).  Papers Past has an Alexander Cross living in the East Invercargill area which included Waihopai.  If Cecilia is Alexander's daughter then it could be a pet name that one of the daughters had.  The closest daughter to school age if a first registration would have been Mary Rowena who would have been 6-7 years old in 1887 as per Althea's post, and then Augusta Louisa who would have been 7-8 yrs old.  It is possible that either Mary or Augusta could have been called Cecilia by the family.  Possibility that it might be Augusta Louisa so as to not muddle her with her mother. 

Auguste (sic) Veronica Greig married Alexander Cross in 1871.  Just to round that off.

The best Violet Cross match married Allen Burns in 1913.  I can't find a marriage for Augusta Louisa.  Lavender married John Bonwell Tale in 1911.  Mary Rowena is hard as there is no marriage for the 'Rowena' bit but two for Mary Cross that seem likely in 1902 to Tom Inch or in 1903 to Henry John Hamilton.

If all the daughters married except for Augusta Louisa - is it possible for her to have been 'Cecilia'???

Chewing on this carrot for a bit
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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #57 on: Monday 17 October 11 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Bunny
yes that was my conclusion as well re Cecilia

all in all we can speculate all we like
the baptism  and confirmation for Myrtle seem the only factual docs missing and school records as to who is recorded as guardian

In a way its a closed case, as you have the facts as they were known from the NZ BMD
We can specualte reason as much as possible but the facts recorded in our official registers are that the parents were Arthur and Cecilia.
Bye
althea


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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #58 on: Monday 17 October 11 19:39 BST (UK) »
Re Mary marriages

There is a Tom and Mary Inch buried at Oxford Public Cemetery, with same record number.
Mary d. 1948 age 82 and Tom d. 1954 age 82, so if this is the couple that married 1902,
this Mary was born 1866.

John B
Barraclough, Barron, Hunter, Marsden, Pawson, Sowden, Street, Vowless,

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #59 on: Monday 17 October 11 23:18 BST (UK) »

In a way its a closed case, as you have the facts as they were known from the NZ BMD
We can specualte reason as much as possible but the facts recorded in our official registers are that the parents were Arthur and Cecilia.
Bye
althea

Parents :  "Arthur Joseph McKEON and Cecilia McKEON  (maiden surname QUELCH)" is what is recorded on Myrtle's death certificate .... BUT it needs to be remembered that this is information supplied by a third party.


 
 
Myrtle's marriage registration shows fathers name as :Arthur Joseph McKeon, Bricklayers Labourer, and Mothers name as Cecilia Quelch formerly McKeon. Maiden name Cross.



What Myrtle herself has offered (above) in respect of her "mother", is different.

Why is Cecilia recorded as "formerly McKEON"  ???

[It suggests that "a Cecilia CROSS either married a McKEON or adopted the McKEON surname, and later, through re-marriage or other, then becomes (surname) QUELCH. "] ?

The only reliable record so far, is the birth registration  >>

1899 - QUELCH - Myrtle Eva
Mother:    Harriet Ellen QUELCH --  Father: Not recorded.


I'm in no way suggesting that this (Southland) Cecilia CROSS should not be followed up on.  :)

*  What may be helpful to this search, is the record of Myrtle's other marriage - to determine if the "mother's" details have been recorded in the same manner.

   ~  Lu 

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 18 October 11 00:20 BST (UK) »
there are some Cecilia Cross' bron from 1850s onwards in Aus
Bye
Althea

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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 23:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Bunny, :D


Just received the death notices today, will forward them to you as soon as I scan them.

Cheers
KHP
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Re: Quelch / McKeon - Auckland??
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 20 October 11 05:16 BST (UK) »
Hi KHP,

Received with a HUGE amount of thanks! 

Awesome service from an awesome Chatter!

Cheers
Bunny 8)
Finey - Hants, Sussex, Portsmouth area
Squire - Devon
Jackson - London
Leach/Prague - India
Bourdot - N.Ireland/France
McKinley - N.Ireland
Quelch - Northamptonshire