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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #108 on: Friday 08 June 12 21:37 BST (UK) »
Well, Casalguidi, I have to say the image looks very like Mary Evenden, and age and pob are good.

I wonder if Goldcoast has any memory of her mother saying her aunt Marian was blind/impaired vision etc?

Of course the column marked INFIRMITY is blocked out in the only other census we have Mary Ann/Marian in, the 1911.  She is 22, and doesn't have an occupation in that census.


Added:  I had another look myself for every possible combination for Mary in this census, and I really think you've hit on it, Casalguidi  :D  Thank you!

How fascinating, this family gets more and more complicated and interesting.  (And exhausting, Royd  ;)
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #109 on: Saturday 09 June 12 02:42 BST (UK) »
Well IgorStrav you sent me looking for my magical scraps of paper... and bingo... my notes say:

Marie (Aunt Polly) Cooley m Hyde (went blind due to operation) lived near Granny and parents at Chatham

Now, I wasn't 100% sure if the blindness referred to Marie or Mr Hyde but I think it must have been Marie.

These gems of information were from my grandmother Evelyn Bertha Read b1907 which I wrote down in the early 1980s.

As I was looking for this piece of paper I came across Sluggie's grandparent's wedding photo with my mother mother (Evelyn Bertha's daughter) in it...

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Cooley, Evenden - Kent / Hewetson - Singapore, Ireland / Elrington - worldwide  / Proctor - Scotland, Uruguay, Australia / Ogilvy - Shetland / Rome - Dumfries, Australia / Read - Dorset, Australia / Clarke - London / Heydinger - London / Durie - Kincardine / Scott - Muckart, Perth, Scotland / Wrench - Staffordshire, Australia

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #110 on: Saturday 09 June 12 06:25 BST (UK) »
goldcoast if its not too much trouble can I please have a copy of that photo
Athorn, Symington, Ferry, Greenshields, Swanson, Fewster, Lillico, Read, Reid, Foster, Pangbourne, Spurr, Cooley, Evenden

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #111 on: Saturday 09 June 12 08:14 BST (UK) »
sure Sluggie, I have many photos to send you :)
Cooley, Evenden - Kent / Hewetson - Singapore, Ireland / Elrington - worldwide  / Proctor - Scotland, Uruguay, Australia / Ogilvy - Shetland / Rome - Dumfries, Australia / Read - Dorset, Australia / Clarke - London / Heydinger - London / Durie - Kincardine / Scott - Muckart, Perth, Scotland / Wrench - Staffordshire, Australia


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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #112 on: Thursday 14 June 12 04:53 BST (UK) »

I did do a search of Evenden births/deaths in the gap between Elizabeth's birth in 1892 and Arthur's in 1900, and came across a possible (would need a certificate to prove it), a Polly Evenden, born Oct 1897 in Maidstone and died April 1900 also in Maidstone.

I to found this on familysearch, only problem is father's name: FILO???
but isn't Maidstone not very far from Marden (about 8 miles) where Elizabeth was born in 1892, and Marden not far from Malling where Arthur was born in 1900
coincidence that the baby is called Polly
must say sounds very likely to be the missing child
Athorn, Symington, Ferry, Greenshields, Swanson, Fewster, Lillico, Read, Reid, Foster, Pangbourne, Spurr, Cooley, Evenden

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #113 on: Thursday 14 June 12 09:54 BST (UK) »
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I to found this on familysearch, only problem is father's name: FILO???
but isn't Maidstone not very far from Marden (about 8 miles) where Elizabeth was born in 1892, and Marden not far from Malling where Arthur was born in 1900
coincidence that the baby is called Polly
must say sounds very likely to be the missing child

Polly is the pet name for Mary Ann and she's already been "found" ;)

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #114 on: Thursday 14 June 12 21:07 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure it is the correct child, Sluggie - I just said it was a tempting possibility, given that Mary Ann was known as Polly.

Casalguidi, we're just trying to pin down the 4th child of the "marriage" of Nathan and Mary Ann (Polly) who was dead by the 1911, and I suggested this child's birth which is, as Sluggie says, in the right sort of area.

We'd need a punt on the certificate, but I wouldn't be surprised that wishful thinking proved not to be correct.   

Whatever the likelihood, dreadful to have 8 children and lose 4.

Goldcoast and I have subsequently tracked down the family of the daughter of Mary Ann Cork/Cooley/Evenden,  Mary Ann/Marian (she of the blind school in the 1901 which you miraculously turned up, Casalguidi) and she also very sadly lost children, including one, we think, at the age of 11 in 1938.  Infant mortality isn't confined to the 19th century.

I am consistently reminded how lucky I am to be here.
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #115 on: Friday 15 June 12 08:22 BST (UK) »
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We'd need a punt on the certificate, but I wouldn't be surprised that wishful thinking proved not to be correct. 

No, it's not correct.  As Sluggie mentions, it is the child of Filo and Mary Ann (baptised Maidstone 7 Oct 1896) http://www.familysearch.org ;)

To refresh our memories, which are the 7 children you have for Nathan and Mary Ann (to save me going all though the back posts) as I could only find 6 quickly ::)

Mary Ann (alive 1911)
Bertha (alive 1911)
Albert Sydney (alive 1911)
Lizzie (alive 1911)
Alice (dec by 1911)
Arthur (dec by 1911)

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Re: Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?
« Reply #116 on: Friday 15 June 12 08:46 BST (UK) »
From an old Ancestry post this child probably belonged to Philo or Filo Evenden and Mary see http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1670&p=localities.britisles.england.ken.general

There is a strong possibility that this branch is related on the Evenden side Sluggie but not relevant to this thread.  We have the whole Evenden mess to sort out yet which I fear is equally if not more complicated than this branch.  As I said to IgorStrav earlier this week 'Evendens put rabbits to shame in the breeding game' after delving into Nathan Evenden's family and I will keep you informed on anything I find but for this forum let's sort this out first.

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Cooley, Evenden - Kent / Hewetson - Singapore, Ireland / Elrington - worldwide  / Proctor - Scotland, Uruguay, Australia / Ogilvy - Shetland / Rome - Dumfries, Australia / Read - Dorset, Australia / Clarke - London / Heydinger - London / Durie - Kincardine / Scott - Muckart, Perth, Scotland / Wrench - Staffordshire, Australia