Fresh eyes for a Cooley family in Kent early 1900's?

[IgorStrav]

Oh no, no need to stop adding to our Mary Ann Cork/Cooley/Evenden/Bell discussions, just thought we should continue to look out for old Arthur Frend during the search! 

[royd]

Back to the Cooleys.......


Browsing through City Ark, I came across the following:

St. John's Chatham.

1874 - Baptism of Charlotte Jane Cooley, daughter of Richard and Charlotte Jane Cooley
(4 Mount, Chatham)

1877 - Baptism of Florence Victoria, daughter of Richard and Charlotte Jane Cooley.

1879 - Baptism of Alice Elizabeth Cooley, daughter of Richard and Charlotte Jane Cooley. But....underneath Charlotte's name, it looks as though the vicar had written Sarah Jo? Cooley but it was crossed out and initalled by him.


I get confused with your Cork/Cooleys but are they yours???

[IgorStrav]

Thank you, Royd, that's very kind!

I have a Charlotte Jane Cork - born (and died  ) ahead of her parents' marriage, in 1872.  But not a later one, as you say, born (or at least baptised) in 1874.

Arthur Friend(Frend) Cork was born and baptised in 1873, again ahead of the marriage.

Charlotte and Richard then married in October 1874, and I have a Phoebe Jane born the same quarter (presumably Charlotte put her foot down at this point!).

Alice Elizabeth in 1879 is also mine, and then David Richard T in 1885.

But I didn't have Florence Victoria either.

So I will have another look for a replacement Charlotte Jane, and the new-to-me Florence Victoria.  Where were they in the 1881/1891, then?

Doesn't get simpler, does it.   

[IgorStrav]

Well, I can't see a replacement Charlotte Jane, and wonder if this is Phoebe Jane, born 1874, with there being a confusion over the baptism record.

And, many thanks, have found little Florence Victoria, who died aged 1.

[casalguidi]

Some information on the Arthur COOLEY who married Ellen TEAGUE 1904 ..............

Arthur COOLEY of 18 Gardener's Buildings, Walker Street, Hull, a butcher, enlisted into the ASC 1 Nov 1915.  Discharged 26 Apr 1916 due to chronic bronchitis.  Next of kin, Mrs Ellen COOLEY of same addresss, married Chatham RO 16 Jul 1904 (no children listed).  Same address on discharge but later changed to 44 Portland Street, Mansfield, Woodhouse.  Age 47 on discharge 1916 so born c1869 unless the age was meant for later dates on the form ie. 1919/1920 which would mean bc1873?

Arthur COOLEY death registration Mansfield registration district December quarter 1926 ref. 7b 73 age 53 thus born c1873.

Didn't that Arthur COOLEY on the 1911 census say he'd been married 7 years

Casalguidi

[goldcoast]

More cousins/confusions...  could someone please tell me what City Ark is, I have seen it mentioned a few times.
Thanks

[casalguidi]

Medway Cityark is the website for Medway local studies.  They have the orignal C of E parish registers online to view for free (see parish registers online in the left hand menu) http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/

Casalguidi

[IgorStrav]

Some information on the Arthur COOLEY who married Ellen TEAGUE 1904 ..............

Arthur COOLEY of 18 Gardener's Buildings, Walker Street, Hull, a butcher, enlisted into the ASC 1 Nov 1915.  Discharged 26 Apr 1916 due to chronic bronchitis.  Next of kin, Mrs Ellen COOLEY of same addresss, married Chatham RO 16 Jul 1904 (no children listed).  Same address on discharge but later changed to 44 Portland Street, Mansfield, Woodhouse.  Age 47 on discharge 1916 so born c1869 unless the age was meant for later dates on the form ie. 1919/1920 which would mean bc1873?

Arthur COOLEY death registration Mansfield registration district December quarter 1926 ref. 7b 73 age 53 thus born c1873.

Didn't that Arthur COOLEY on the 1911 census say he'd been married 7 years

Casalguidi

Well, that doesn't sound like my Arthur Frend Cork/Cooley born 1873, very firmly in Chatham, does it.  I wish other Cooleys, born elsewhere, and not connected to ours, would keep well out of it.  There is enough to worry about with ours.

I am tempted to think that Arthur, "wife" Mary Ann and their son Arthur David Cooley emigrated, or otherwise left the area.  Because I can track down all Arthur's siblings, but not them.

And why did Bertha marry from the same address that Arthur lived at?  Answering Goldcoast's question, it would definitely have been a rented house, I can't imagine any of the family being wealthy enough to own a house.

Did Arthur and his family emigrate, and this give an idea to Bertha and Arthur Read?

[casalguidi]

Well, that doesn't sound like my Arthur Frend Cork/Cooley born 1873, very firmly in Chatham, does it

Well I thought it could well be him

He was born c1873, if he is the one in the 1911 census then he says he was born Chatham and that he's been married 7 years and, I thought this was the best bit, on one of the census your Arthur is a sausage skin maker (or something to that effect) and the only people I know who make sausages are butchers!

Of course, it may well not be him at all.

Regarding young Arthur David, assuming the 1901 census is correct and that he is the son of Arthur, he may well have lived with a step name if his parents parted company whilst he was a baby and may not have even known any different and especially so if his parents weren't actually married

Casalguidi