Trait of Muckalee Kilkenny

[kenneth cooke]

My Gr Gr Gr grandfather was Michael Trait of Muckalee, abt 1805-1887. His first wife was Mary Quinlan m. 1828, 2nd was Margt Lalor, mar.1848, and came to Australia 1852 with 2 adult daughters, Cath. & Bridget. Two sons Martin & Thomas came later as well as several nephews, Patrick & Thomas, also Kyren.
Other Traits went to USA, and some are still in Kilkenny.
Traits seem to have come to Ireland about mid 1700s, as Trait, Treat, Treight and Van Treight.They were in England from about 1550s.
Other names from Kilkenny are:
Lyons & Coonan from Muckalee, Butler, Byrne.
I have been in contact with some Traits & Coonan from Kilkenny. I am trying to find where the Traits came from- ? France, Holland etc.
My grandmother was Anastasia Trait, b. & d. Australia.
Ken Cooke

[kenneth cooke]

One common belief among the Irish, US and Australian Traits is that the name came from France. It is believed to be an abbreviation of Traiteur, an occupation surname meaning 'caterer'. There were, and still are today, Traits in France, also Traite, and Traiteur.
Among some of the earliest in Kilkenny are Trait, Treat, Treight and Van Treight, which sounds like a Dutch name, but the spelling of 'Treight' can only be English.
Did Trait/Traiteur first move to Holland from France and become Van Trait ?Then moved to England, where some cleric wrote their name as Van Treight ?
Why would French people leave France to go to Holland or England in the 16th century ? To escape religious persecution, of course, like the Huguenots.
The first Traits appear in England a few years after Henry VIII was declared "Supreme Head in Earth of the Church of England" in 1534.
Ken



 

[kenneth cooke]

 The plaque on Michael Trait's grave at the Buninyong cemetery, (near Ballarat) reads:
   
"In memory of our pioneering ancestors
who travelled to Australia over 152 years
ago.
Michael Trait 1803-13.12.1887, Ballyfoyle,
Co. Kilkenny, Ireland, Loving husband of
Margaret Trait,(nee Lawler) 1824-7.6.1884.
Michael and Margaret Trait arrived at Geelong
on 31 March 1882 on the ship ‘Cambodia’.
They arrived with Michael’s daughters Bridget
and Catherine, and Margaret’s son Michael.
The Cambodia had departed from Plymouth, 
on 3 December 1851.
Loving father of Catherine, Bridget, Thomas
and Martin. Loving parents of Michael, John,
John, Rose, Mary, Ellen, Patrick, George and
Ellen."

Catherine married Edmund (Ned) Byrne, who was also a passenger on the Cambodia, and Bridget mar. Martin Maloney. Michael's first wife, Mary Quinlan (my ancestor) had died, about 1848.
Ken     

[crispin111]

Kenneth
My name is Evelynne - I was born in Melbourne and my grandmother was Mary Ann Trait whose grandfateher was Michael Trait born 1803 Ballyfoyle and married Mary (Bridget) Quinlan and later Margaret Lawler.

I am going to be in UK in the New Year and also to Ireland.

[kenneth cooke]

Hi Evelynne
Nice to hear from you. I've been in touch with your brother a few times over the years. Your grandmother and mine were sisters.
Actually 'old' Michael Trait was her Gr. grandfather.
I visited Ireland last year and went to Kilkenny, where I met a few Traits.
I saw the ruins of the old house where the Lyons family lived. (Mary Ann's mother was Annie Lyons)
I'll contact you off-line and give you my contact details.
Ken

[crispin111]

hi Kenneth

How r u able to do indirect?

You could email my brother for my email address.

Evelynne

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[Jack2227]

Tithe defaulters Kilkenny;

Kryan Trait; Farmer
Ballyfoyle, Dunmore Mucklaee, Kilmodum
1841
Barony; Gowan & Fassasineen
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Jack

[Jack2227]

Headstones in Muckalee cemetery;

Michael Butler; Clopook; 19/6/1962 (71)
wife-Mary; 29/6/1979 (76)
his father-Patrick; 24/3/1910 (80)
his mother- Brigid; 29/4/1929 (68)
his twin bro-Martin-4/3/1910 (18)
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Eamond Butler; Knockghanbally  1924
wife-Mary; 1908
son-John; 1941
son-Thomas; 1948
son-William; 1956
son-James; 28/11/1968
son-Michael; 17/5/1981 (89)
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James Byrne; Muckalee; 6/2/1983 (84)
also his parents, interred here.
wife; Bridget (Bridie) 10/4/1987 (78)
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James Byrne; Damerstown; 27/6/1989 (71)
wife-Johanna (nee Shore); 14/6/2007 (75)
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Daniel Lyons; Knockshanbally; 2/6/1902 (74)
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Jack