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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 10 November 11 08:23 GMT (UK) »
I am speculating, but from this newspaper cutting, there's a logical reason for the registers being at Coonabarabran

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28413439 SMH 25 September 1872

MARRIAGES.-The undermentioned officiating ministers have been registered for the celebration of marriages : Church of England (Diocese of Bathurst) : The Rev. Henry Dicker, Coonabarabran.......

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 10 November 11 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kylie,

Possibly some clues re the movements for Rev Dicker, and the Coonamble C of E during the 1870's. 

Christ Church, Coonabarabran and  St Barnabas Cooonamble 1872-1876  (Diocese of Bathurst)
Coonabarabran alone 1876-1879
At Saints Cathedral, Bathurst 1879-1881
Appin, Wilton, Nepean Towers 1881-1907 (Diocese of Sydney)

Source : Sydney Diocese Directories.

And  parts of a paragraph or two from the 109 pages of "Thematic history of Coonamble Shire" at this link:

www.coonambleshire.nsw.gov.au/_.../Coonamble_Shire_Thematic

"Anglican services were first conducted by priests visiting from Mudgee,Coonabarabran and Dubbo. In the early 1870s the Rev. Henry Dicker of Coonabarabran periodically conducted services in the dining room of McCullough’s Exchange Hotel. Services were also held in private homes including the residence of Arthur Willmott who had acquired an ‘organ or harmonium’. The first Anglican rector was the Rev. W. Coombes who was appointed to the Parish of Coonamble in 1877 . The Church of St Barnabas was constructed in 1876 on the corner of Namoi and Aberford Streets. It had a slab walls and a shingle roof and replaced ‘a very rough, temporary building, which had been walled and roofed with bark’. This building had been constructed by ‘Messrs Christian, Broad and Cochrane’.  Coombes was followed by the Reverend George Oakes who rode from Bathurst to Coonamble in 1879 to take up his post. George Oakes travelled the district administering services in homesteads and woolsheds. ....."


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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #65 on: Friday 11 November 11 04:46 GMT (UK) »
hi JM
Thanks so much for all this- I am going to recontact Coonabarabran parish and Diocean office again right now. FIngers crossed!!!
Interesting that is says there was not a CofE church in Coonamble til 1877- wonder where Esthers marriage ceremony actually took place!!

I am also wondering if there would have been a local newspaper at that time (the FHS do not have newspapers back that far). Thinking if there was there might be a notice re the marriage, or the childrens births, or even Esthers arrests.....

And still waiting on the Dependant Childrens registers.
 Fingers still crossed ;)
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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #66 on: Friday 11 November 11 05:03 GMT (UK) »
Many of those early newspapers are held by the National Library in Canberra, just not digitised  ;D

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #67 on: Tuesday 22 November 11 06:43 GMT (UK) »
I am getting the feeling I am just not meant to trace this family....

Just heard back from researcher about Dependant Children's REgisters- the registers for the Creighton children has not survived and there are no alternative records that might tell me what happened to the children or if they eventually were returned to their mother.

Coonabarabran parish has discovered they do not hold the PR's back as far as 1875, Coonamble do not have registers for that time, and the diocean office advise if the local parishes do not have the PR's then they may have been lost.

No luck with chasing for access via Dept of Corrective Services to Coonamble gaol records to see what is reported of Esther there.

COntacted National Library who hold newspapers for that region- but not back as far as the 1880's- they have suggested contacting State Library.

Inspiration anyone???? ???
Kylie

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 22 November 11 07:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kylie getting a bit tough isn't it.  :'( Gees lost the PR's, I don't have much faith in them, excuse the pun. :-[

Have you tried the Dubbo family History Society, they MAY hold some records or know where to lay their hands on them. ???

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 06:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neil
Yes - I know. When JM said there were always 2 copies, I thought that sounded pretty safe! Och well...

I have contacted Coonamble FHS- no luck there. No reply from Coonabarabran. HAdnt thought of Dubbo so I will give them a try!

Thanks ;)
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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 27 November 11 03:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
Are there any census's for the Coonamble region- or residents lists or the like- that someone can check to see when George Creighton appears in the area??

I am trying to work out then he arrived- in the hopes it might give me some clue about Esther. Did they even meet in Coonmable, or did they meet elsewhere and move there to marry (because she was under age??) ???

Looking for ANY other options for clue's.

Have tried contacting the parishes JM mentioned (Bathurst and Nepean Towers) to see if perhaps Henry Dicker took his registers with him as one last try to find that marriage- FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED ;)

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 13 March 12 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately the Coonamble news paper appears to have begun in 1885  :( according to the NLA catalogue.  I had a look for Walgett and Gilgandra newspapers but the same story - they began much later than the marriage you are after.  Bourke and Narrabri seem like the next nearest towns but the distances are so great that I wonder whether they would report a wedding in Coonamble - what do you think?

I note also that there is a museum at Coonamble
http://www.coonambleshire.nsw.gov.au/VisitingCoonamble/Museum.html

And a family history group is mentioned:
http://www.coonambleshire.nsw.gov.au/Community/Coonamble.html

Also some TAYLORS at Coonamble cemetery.  However this site has few records of unmarked graves - 2 links
http://www.austcemindex.com/cemetery-inscriptions.php?id=21
http://www.austcemindex.com/cemetery.php?id=20

Anglican church history:
http://www.bathurstanglican.org.au/Parishes/Coonamble.html

The first church building in Coonamble was built from bark stripped from trees near the creek. In 1872 the first priest was H. Dicker.  The second church building was erected in 1877 and pulled down in 1909.  The current building was commenced on 12.9.1908 and consecrated on 31.10.1909.

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